From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "João Távora" <joaotavora@gmail.com>,
"Philippe Vaucher" <philippe.vaucher@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
tomas@tuxteam.de, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: [ELPA] New package: transient
Date: Sat, 2 May 2020 10:42:22 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <df35ae9f-5f1d-40e7-b3b1-8de3b21157a3@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALDnm50gspebQDAqnpveyxm8VFG07huAxk2wwRuH4cewv91idg@mail.gmail.com>
> I think demanding namespacing for discoverability
> is mixing up two not entirely orthogonal but also
> not entirely dependent things.
This.
My guess is that it's from a particular habit.
We all have our ingrained ways of working.
Emacs and Lisp are a bit different from what
many programmers are used to. That's NOT
something new. Back in the day, newbies came
to Emacs and Lisp from Fortran, C, Basic,
Pascal, etc. Those are _at least_ as alien
from Lisp as are Java, Python, etc. (Fortran
didn't even have recursion! Trying to grok a
Lisp definition of `append' was mind-blowing.)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-02 17:42 UTC|newest]
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2020-04-28 13:01 [ELPA] New package: transient Jonas Bernoulli
[not found] ` <jwv4kt3d1r8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <87v9ljo5d0.fsf@bernoul.li>
[not found] ` <jwvh7x3bfoe.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
[not found] ` <87ftcnxu5m.fsf@bernoul.li>
2020-04-29 8:29 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 9:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 9:50 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 10:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 10:17 ` tomas
2020-04-29 10:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 10:52 ` tomas
2020-04-30 12:44 ` Arthur Miller
2020-04-30 13:28 ` tomas
2020-04-30 14:26 ` Namespacing Emacs's core (was: [ELPA] New package: transient) Stefan Monnier
2020-04-30 15:08 ` tomas
2020-04-30 18:23 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 18:56 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 19:02 ` tomas
2020-04-30 2:30 ` [ELPA] New package: transient Richard Stallman
2020-05-01 2:49 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-01 6:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 2:24 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 8:09 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 9:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 9:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 10:11 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 10:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 10:56 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 10:59 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 11:09 ` Use elisp--xref-backend in *Apropos* and *Help* (Was Re: [ELPA] New package: transient) João Távora
2020-05-02 14:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03 2:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-02 11:22 ` [ELPA] New package: transient Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 11:52 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 12:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 12:09 ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 12:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 12:22 ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 12:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 17:33 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-04 3:07 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-04 16:04 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 9:53 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 10:39 ` João Távora
2020-05-02 11:10 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 11:17 ` João Távora
2020-05-02 11:39 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 12:02 ` João Távora
2020-05-02 12:11 ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 12:20 ` João Távora
2020-05-02 12:36 ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 12:59 ` João Távora
2020-05-02 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 13:12 ` João Távora
2020-05-02 12:28 ` tomas
2020-05-02 12:22 ` tomas
2020-05-03 3:43 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-03 4:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 3:08 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 17:48 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 14:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-02 14:57 ` João Távora
2020-05-02 17:42 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2020-05-02 10:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 11:47 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 12:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 14:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-02 15:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 15:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-02 16:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 14:10 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 14:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 14:26 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 15:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 15:43 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 16:12 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 16:42 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 18:27 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-03 3:43 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-03 7:47 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-03 19:46 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-03 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03 22:04 ` João Távora
2020-05-04 0:41 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-04 3:09 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 16:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 17:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 18:10 ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 18:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 18:37 ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 19:12 ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 19:44 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 18:32 ` Yuan Fu
2020-05-02 20:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 20:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 21:00 ` João Távora
2020-05-02 21:53 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 22:13 ` João Távora
2020-05-04 3:07 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 21:27 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-03 14:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 15:03 ` João Távora
2020-05-03 15:11 ` Joost Kremers
2020-05-03 15:28 ` C-h f and C-h v (was: [ELPA] New package: transient) Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03 17:41 ` João Távora
2020-05-03 17:44 ` João Távora
2020-05-03 16:21 ` [ELPA] New package: transient Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 15:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03 16:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 21:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 13:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04 15:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04 18:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 16:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-03 16:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 17:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-03 17:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 17:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-03 18:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04 0:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-03 19:49 ` João Távora
2020-05-03 23:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-04 1:01 ` João Távora
2020-05-04 1:28 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-04 18:05 ` João Távora
2020-05-04 14:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04 15:23 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04 17:31 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-04 1:13 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-04 14:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-05 8:23 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-05 14:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-05 15:39 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-05 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-05 16:33 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-05 15:44 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-05 16:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-05 16:40 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-05 8:27 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-03 21:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 13:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 16:50 ` João Távora
2020-05-03 16:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 17:43 ` João Távora
2020-05-04 3:08 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 18:57 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 19:15 ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 19:59 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 20:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 14:22 ` João Távora
2020-04-29 13:12 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 13:42 ` tomas
2020-04-29 13:50 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 17:03 ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-29 19:25 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 17:51 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-29 19:24 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 13:53 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-29 14:01 ` tomas
2020-04-29 14:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 15:25 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 18:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-30 18:19 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 18:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-30 19:26 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 19:34 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 22:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-30 22:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-01 3:13 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-01 3:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-01 15:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-01 16:05 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 2:27 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 7:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 8:06 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 17:08 ` Drew Adams
2020-04-30 19:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-29 17:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-29 19:01 ` tomas
2020-04-29 19:31 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 11:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-30 12:38 ` tomas
2020-04-30 17:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-30 17:53 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 18:42 ` tomas
2020-04-30 18:41 ` tomas
2020-04-30 18:14 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 18:58 ` tomas
2020-04-30 19:13 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 19:33 ` tomas
2020-04-30 20:54 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-30 22:46 ` chad
2020-05-02 2:27 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-01 8:23 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 2:24 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-30 22:04 ` Keeping it kind Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-01 7:17 ` tomas
2020-05-01 8:31 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 2:24 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 2:27 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-01 2:51 ` [ELPA] New package: transient Richard Stallman
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2020-04-30 1:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-29 13:19 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 14:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-04-29 13:43 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 14:17 ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-29 14:19 ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-30 2:28 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-29 15:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 15:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-29 16:05 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-01 17:38 ` João Távora
2020-05-01 18:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-30 2:30 ` Richard Stallman
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2020-04-29 12:52 ` Adam Porter
2020-04-30 2:29 ` Richard Stallman
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2020-05-02 2:30 ` T.V Raman
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