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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::32d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246032 Archived-At: On 30.03.2020 19:09, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> This discussion was revived when Richard said that pull requests should >> be "hidden". Which is a novel request. > AFIU, that won't be necessary for hosting the repository used for pull > requests on nongnu.org. That only brings further questions. How would that even work? AFAIK none of Github clones (Gitlab, etc) support pull requests between separate installations. And it's non-trivial to implement (and possibly harder to justify to Gitlab's developers). And without the "standard" PR automation we're back to the current state of affairs: either send patches over email, or, okay, links to external repositories and branches (you can recall yourself how often that happens). More importantly: suppose we have a separate Gitlab installation in nongnu.org. Who's going to be able to create new branches there? There same current pool of Emacs developers? A separate list of people who ask for access afterwards? Everyone? If it's the first option, I don't see why we'd go to such great lengths at all: anyone who wanted to create "bad" branches, can do so now in the current repo.