From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>, Davis Herring <herring@lanl.gov>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: char equivalence classes in search - why not symmetric?
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 17:33:37 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <dbdf0bee-b6c5-4691-99d6-b8cc938d2ca7@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fv2xpxll.fsf@mail.linkov.net>
> Or in a brief table:
>
> ‘C-s a’ matches [aA]
> ‘C-s a M-c’ matches [a]
> ‘C-s A’ matches [A]
> ‘C-s A M-c’ matches [aA]
>
> Substituting ‘A’ into ‘ä’ (other equivalent chars omitted for brevity):
>
> ‘C-s a’ matches [aä]
> ‘C-s a M-'’ matches [a]
> ‘C-s ä’ matches [ä]
> ‘C-s ä M-'’ matches [aä]
>
> I see no problem implementing the same.
Did you mean `M-s '' insteaed of `M-''? If so, except for the last
line, that's what we have now, IIUC.
And yes, that would be one way to do it (get the 4 match possibilities
I requested). Gets my vote.
> BTW, could this scheme be applied to whitespace matching as well?
>
> ‘C-s SPC’ matches [SPC TAB]
> ‘C-s SPC M-s SPC’ matches [SPC]
> ‘C-s TAB’ matches [TAB]
> ‘C-s TAB M-s SPC’ matches [SPC TAB]
Sounds good to me. Again, gets my vote.
But in each case, I would want there to be a user option that
controls the default behavior, just as `case-fold-search' does.
That should be the first fix, as I mentioned earlier: change
`character-fold-search' to a defcustom. Let a user decide
which default behavior s?he wants for char folding - and
whitespace folding as well.
It is very handy to me that search always starts by default
by respecting case, because my customized value of
`case-fold-search' is nil. I would not want to have to
do `M-c' each time I start a search. Likewise, for char
folding (`M-s '') and whitespace folding (`M-s SPC').
> > How did that upper-case letter get there? Commands like C-w are careful
> > not to add uppercase letters if there aren't already some. So the user
> > must have typed it explicitly, and so they were paying attention to case
> > and have no need for a case-insensitive search. The only harm is if
> > they are inconsistent in their typing -- during something as brief as
> > isearch.
>
> Yanking a string with upper-case letters into Isearch does more harm
> by converting them into lower-case. I believe yanking a string
> should not strip diacritics either.
That too gets my vote - WYYIWYG: what you yank is what you get.
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2015-09-01 15:46 char equivalence classes in search - why not symmetric? Drew Adams
2015-09-01 15:52 ` Davis Herring
2015-09-01 16:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-01 17:51 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-01 18:40 ` Davis Herring
2015-09-01 19:09 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-01 22:45 ` Juri Linkov
2015-09-02 0:33 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2015-09-01 20:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-01 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
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[not found] ` <<21998.29683.916211.867479@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de>
[not found] ` <<9A972800-D8F0-4DA8-877E-07D5BDC2E1F9@gmail.com>
2015-09-01 17:50 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-01 18:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-01 18:46 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-01 19:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-01 20:15 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 5:36 ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-09-08 6:04 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-09-08 13:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-08 14:24 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 15:21 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-08 16:58 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 17:38 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-09-09 22:52 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 3:12 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 21:46 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 20:15 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-08 20:15 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-08 21:25 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-09 15:07 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-09 15:21 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 2:03 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-10 3:23 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-11 10:28 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-11 13:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-11 16:33 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-11 20:59 ` Juri Linkov
2015-09-11 23:11 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-12 15:28 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-11 16:31 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-11 10:28 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-11 16:31 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-12 15:29 ` Richard Stallman
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2015-09-08 21:46 ` Drew Adams
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2015-09-12 15:59 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 13:39 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 21:19 ` Juri Linkov
2015-09-09 15:07 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-08 15:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-08 16:57 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-08 21:20 ` Juri Linkov
2015-09-09 2:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-09 11:23 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-09-09 13:32 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-09 15:12 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-11 20:50 ` Juri Linkov
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2015-09-09 15:22 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 2:03 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-10 3:15 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 6:57 ` David Kastrup
2015-09-10 15:02 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-10 15:50 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-08 20:09 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-08 21:00 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-09 15:06 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-08 21:47 ` Ulrich Mueller
2015-09-02 15:34 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-02 15:56 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-02 16:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-02 21:51 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-09-02 22:15 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-03 15:37 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-03 2:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-03 3:08 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-09-03 7:28 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-09-03 17:15 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-07 13:52 ` Nix
2015-09-07 17:07 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-07 23:23 ` Nix
2015-09-08 2:17 ` Richard Stallman
2015-09-03 14:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-03 15:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-03 16:15 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-03 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-09-03 16:46 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-02 16:10 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-09-03 19:49 ` Pip Cet
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