From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Interactive guide for new users Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:34:29 +0300 Message-ID: References: <875z8ortot.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <83lfhjkq0r.fsf@gnu.org> <8620B5CD-CA92-46BF-80A8-DBE7052F4CA6@gmail.com> <83d02re2uk.fsf@gnu.org> <838sdfdzxo.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3692"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 Cc: casouri@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 13:35:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kH3oO-0000qa-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 13:35:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54530 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH3oN-0007mE-Bi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 07:35:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52104) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH3nf-00077F-Hr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 07:34:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-x12b.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::12b]:42890) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH3nd-00080u-Cn; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 07:34:35 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-x12b.google.com with SMTP id b12so8483814lfp.9; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 04:34:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ohCVxt/sjywAPeHpoweJQH3C/fEInOmyI/3lHMfK9I8=; b=Niuw06+o3uMz7ouzKhhIPC2y1+oKlK6W+gO+JVeO/P70bNa3CfP3nqVC3asQ5noRsM xXKetRAIdxzwV3MvcunqG/KeQXmwf05WUbzE0nYIICUHkAdXdfMJEFp8BYDtXwk4cjiT Joj1HsZc+M3gMeuMMWJo4UhWf4VVCcxVz0WT+cAAj1G6sASvLDghvLO+L0VmNq6rHq5+ bQAR+4/NPT1RiFEWgzzOLvZ+K1YhKPaWAMbho/hSOEYJZ2ONp01jNoqShdypG3wuS7U6 neYQbFq8hn9FrfpwR+bXsc5v4ZCaFhk9HbozXoAyAqp9zlP1iCidBC+PXgxk+b30ycJ7 SR6Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ohCVxt/sjywAPeHpoweJQH3C/fEInOmyI/3lHMfK9I8=; b=idK0rMfSs3A1VEV0zfNi2WaPKGm42ZukH6SPNpo+3My+mDqFbziHbpmp0IivtoHUTV eMU6JYu/0xDa/nndge2//Ga5IBHdI3L9zAVtiz8qkfLvFU/hD7+4HWjXQp3DM+AJ61Rn Od3UJ5pmdyAKCVtWbSLjIkvX+uqYn+3Y8oYMY8XGy1IgLx8nHNybEV2PQj1CW+hkN4ZO 7tbynlpaIhVUhUa3epsmnBni4bU7uclMtrTi8muB9J3L0BI6EJMxQmQ9iCDIY1FKNCB4 BCJ/bI6bPt9XKsqnitPCYzWLpcKwWjE6ZotqFz96N22WjcXJ1rUQ811C2tJm/hkvv21v kYxQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530x7Am8Ah/Ln50MhnNHR4BflSc0ECar6NPH0xYWDc3WqO9I+/bg nNyOa5EcSXALMRbc0Ib0wCZZaYAGvmM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzM3yQCXHzm5Kilhv04QM+7fJkwhkNYxebUl+ZKjjfFaPosiQ5aanbts2xiEQtTDVTruLbsGA== X-Received: by 2002:a19:c608:: with SMTP id w8mr1972228lff.88.1599910470796; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 04:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.0.104] ([94.229.108.16]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 78sm1241612lfn.20.2020.09.12.04.34.29 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 12 Sep 2020 04:34:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <838sdfdzxo.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::12b; envelope-from=raaahh@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x12b.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -29 X-Spam_score: -3.0 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.0 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.543, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255306 Archived-At: On 12.09.2020 13:58, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>>> 11. (setq uniquify-buffer-name-style 'forward uniquify-min-dir-content 1024) >>> Why? what's wrong with the defaults here? >>> >> This has been discussed earlier in another thread, but the current >> defaults (uniquify-buffer-name-style set to post-forward-angle-brackets) >> is puzzling to most users, to say the least. A complete file name is what >> most users would expect here. > A complete file name takes too much of the screen space on the mode > line, IMO. You'd need to make the font used by the mode-line face to > be much smaller, and even then it will steal too much space. This value of uniquify-buffer-name-style has been a part of every major "starter kit" for quite some time: https://github.com/bbatsov/prelude/blob/dd9b01a991c9599842ba88e52fe6ae8627f4a782/core/prelude-editor.el#L105 https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs/blob/a2a5038b970df20ec512447b7bbbe96fa2446851/core/core-ui.el#L166 https://git.sr.ht/~technomancy/better-defaults/tree/master/better-defaults.el#L63 So we can say for sure that people find it comfortable enough.