From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Allowing point to be outside the window? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280443 Archived-At: On 28.11.2021 19:59, Eric S Fraga wrote: > On Sunday, 28 Nov 2021 at 16:39, Kévin Le Gouguec wrote: >> I'll bite: because a user could want to peek a few screenfuls >> ahead/behind, while keeping the cursor at a point of interest, where > That's what C-x 2 M-C-v is for?;-) And with the feature in question you would just scroll with the mouse however far you like, and then return to the original location with e.g. 'C-f'. Far fewer keypresses. I've used this kind of approach often back in another (non-Emacser) life, and I've missed that ability for a number of years afterward.