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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259865 Archived-At: >> If, with Emacs 28, I set 'minibuffer-follows-selected-frame' to non-nil, > > Do you mean "to nil", here? That variable is non-nil by default. Right. I meant "to nil" here. >> the behavior does not entirely match that of Emacs 27 because the second >> RET must be typed in the first frame. So if some application relies on >> the exact replication of the behavior of Emacs 27, we have a regression. > > Well the new behaviour is explicitly not wholly compatible with the old. > I'm not sure that counts as a regression. Having a customizable variable like 'minibuffer-follows-selected-frame' whose purpose is to get back the old behavior, should also provide that old behavior as faithfully as possible IMHO. martin