From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Merging native-comp and pgtk
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 23:30:43 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d8dd3c75-2e8a-8816-73d0-2167cd218aa0@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874kifptne.fsf@gnus.org>
On 13.02.2021 23:03, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> writes:
>
>> But the actual people who compile Emacs for distribution are the
>> minority, aren't they? So it might make sense to just document the
>> advice to do full AOT when compiling for distribution, but default to
>> lazy compilation.
>
> Then developers would (commonly) be running a different thing than most
> users...
There is a certain subset of our users who routinely compile from
master, but don't really contribute to the development.
For instance, see the Homebrew stats here for 'emacs --HEAD':
https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/emacs
(I don't really have any numbers across platforms, this is just the
first thing I managed to dig up).
>>> But it would indeed make sense to be able to inhibit it if your build
>>> machine isn't super-spiffy.
>>
>> Or, you know, if you update the code often enough and don't want to
>> waste time on native-recompiling the world every time.
>
> Does AOT need really need to recompile everything every time temacs is
> built, though (as somebody said)?
Hmm, maybe I spoke too strongly. I haven't tried a full AOT build myself
yet, actually (Stefan showed some numbers on that), but even the current
"lazy" approach feels quite slow to me.
So if you have ever been annoyed with the current recompilation speed
after 'git pull' (even just of the files that do need to be recompiled),
you can multiply that time by X.
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2021-02-09 20:01 ` Alan Third
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2021-02-10 18:00 ` Yuan Fu
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2021-02-10 18:24 ` Robert Pluim
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2021-02-11 14:30 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
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2021-02-12 8:44 ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-12 11:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 9:30 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 9:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 10:00 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 10:02 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 10:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 10:18 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 10:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-12 21:49 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 22:03 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-12 22:45 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-13 7:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 12:05 ` Jean Louis
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2021-02-12 11:38 ` tomas
2021-02-12 13:26 ` Robert Pluim
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2021-02-12 10:00 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 10:14 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 17:56 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 18:14 ` Merging native-comp and pgtk Stefan Monnier
2021-02-12 18:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 22:29 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-12 23:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-12 23:28 ` Andy Moreton
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2021-02-13 14:10 ` Andy Moreton
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2021-02-13 9:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 13:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 21:47 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-13 7:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 11:16 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 11:28 ` Tassilo Horn
2021-02-13 11:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 12:17 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-13 14:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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2021-02-13 21:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 21:30 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2021-02-13 21:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 22:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 23:44 ` Tassilo Horn
2021-02-13 17:38 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 18:36 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14 19:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-14 19:32 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14 23:18 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-15 14:15 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-13 13:41 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 20:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 3:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 4:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-13 14:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-14 18:34 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-14 7:42 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2021-02-12 18:32 ` Cleaning out old X11 toolkits? Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 9:01 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 9:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-13 10:29 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-14 12:50 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-14 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15 9:48 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-15 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15 16:02 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-15 16:13 ` tomas
2021-02-15 17:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-15 17:20 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-12 13:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-12 17:56 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-12 18:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-12 20:09 ` martin rudalics
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2021-02-13 9:02 ` martin rudalics
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2021-02-13 10:29 ` Colin Baxter
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2021-02-14 17:16 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-14 17:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 18:18 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-14 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-14 22:33 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-15 8:17 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-15 9:19 ` Andy Moreton
2021-02-13 14:39 ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-13 14:43 ` Jean Louis
2021-02-13 15:50 ` martin rudalics
2021-02-13 16:04 ` Colin Baxter
2021-02-13 21:42 ` Stefan Monnier
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2021-02-14 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
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2021-02-11 14:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-11 15:16 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-10 23:55 ` Alan Third
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2021-02-11 17:34 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-11 20:18 ` Alan Third
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2021-02-13 11:17 ` Alan Third
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2021-02-14 12:19 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-14 9:58 ` Alan Third
2021-02-13 15:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-13 15:59 ` Alan Third
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