From: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
To: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org>
Cc: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paaguti@gmail.com>,
emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: emacsclient startup messages
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 12:16:55 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <d6f8ea4b-5f99-68fd-1b0a-03a1a97da0b5@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <umtmq5s4i@gentoo.org>
On 10/30/2021 10:39 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Oct 2021, Jim Porter wrote:
>
>> I believe this is bug#51327. From how I understand it, this is fallout
>> from the fix for bug#33847 that occurs when `emacsclient' is run and
>> can't find a daemon to connect to. As far as I can tell, it's an
>> indicator of a real bug: the code is checking TMPDIR for the socket
>> even on a system with XDG_RUNTIME_DIR set (and ultimately, the
>> to-be-created daemon will put its socket in XDG_RUNTIME_DIR).
>
> There can be situations where there is an XDG environment for the client
> but not for the daemon.
Right, the patch in bug#33847 should handle that case correctly, but I'm
pretty sure the current implementation opens users who spawn the Emacs
daemon on-demand to symlink attacks. That's due to the code needing to
check both XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and TMPDIR before being sure there's no
daemon to connect to.
I can think of two ways to avoid this issue:
1) Have a flag that lets users explicitly state whether emacsclient can
fall back to looking in TMPDIR. Then, if the flag is unset, emacsclient
will only look in XDG_RUNTIME_DIR; if it is set, it will look in
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR first, and fall back to TMPDIR if necessary. However,
this means that either your case in bug#33847 or the "daemon on demand"
case will need to explicitly set this flag, which is annoying.
2) If XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and ALTERNATE_EDITOR/--alternate-editor are both
set, never check TMPDIR. This should let both cases work without
requiring users to explicitly set a flag anywhere, but it the lack of
explicitness could be more confusing. I think this should work fine in
all cases, since users running `emacs --daemon' without XDG probably
won't be using ALTERNATE_EDITOR (the daemon should always be running, so
there's no need for an alternate editor).
- Jim
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-30 19:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-26 5:26 emacsclient startup messages Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2021-10-26 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-26 16:43 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2021-10-26 16:32 ` Jim Porter
2021-10-26 16:46 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2021-10-26 17:03 ` Jim Porter
2021-10-27 5:05 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2021-10-30 17:39 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-10-30 19:16 ` Jim Porter [this message]
2021-10-30 19:47 ` Jim Porter
2021-10-31 10:03 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2021-10-31 15:44 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2021-11-05 7:04 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2021-11-05 8:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-05 9:40 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-11-05 16:35 ` Jim Porter
2021-11-05 17:52 ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-11-06 11:35 ` Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez
2021-11-06 18:40 ` Jim Porter
2021-11-07 9:49 ` Peter Oliver
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