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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248512 Archived-At: > My earnest advice for those developers is to try the features I > mentioned, they might find them useful in situations similar to the > one you described, and they might then decide to use them more than > what they do today. +1. The most important, most useful thing to learn in Emacs is how to _ask Emacs_. That should be the main emphasis of any intro, tutorial, etc. to using Emacs. It's the key to unlocking the door - the key to learning Emacs any way that works for _you_.