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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::32a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:245692 Archived-At: On 22.03.2020 19:30, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > How can we, who master this already, know what is or isn't > understandable for people who don't? I don't think we can. You > cannot "unlearn" something, at least not easily. The only practical > strategy is not to use devices that are overkill. Most high-level languages have a "case" construct which compares a single value with a list of options, even C does (switch ... case). So a lot of developers are used to this idea. And even expect it. And in Emacs Lisp, the closest built-in construct we have is pcase. Although cl-case is also an option.