Oh wow, not being able to search that buffer has been my main pain point of transient. Thank you so much! On 2021-08-04 2:56 p.m., T.V Raman wrote: > Philip Kaludercic writes: > > > I recently discovered thanks to the transient/magit author that once you > enable navigation via arrows in transient popups, it also gives you > isearch of the transient. We then discovered a bug where using isearch > to find a transient option and pressing enter wasn't working, but > Jonas has since fixed that and it works. > transient-enable-popup-navigation is a variable defined in ‘transient.el’. > > Its value is t > Original value was nil > > You can customize this variable. > This variable was introduced, or its default value was changed, in > version 0.2.0 of the transient package. > > Whether navigation commands are enabled in the transient popup. > > While a transient is active the transient popup buffer is not the > current buffer, making it necessary to use dedicated commands to > act on that buffer itself. If this non-nil, then the following > features are available: > > - "" moves the cursor to the previous suffix. > "" moves the cursor to the next suffix. > "RET" invokes the suffix the cursor is on. > - "" invokes the clicked on suffix. > - "C-s" and "C-r" start isearch in the popup buffer. > > >> Rudolf Adamkovič writes: >> >>> Philip Kaludercic writes: >>> >>>> On the other hand something has always felt off about transient, in >>>> the sense that it is breaking some expected behaviour or couldn't >>>> pin-point yet, but just unconsciously stumble over. >>> This is exactly how I feel about the "modern" interfaces in Emacs. I >>> reported a bug in Embark recently, and because I could not select and >>> copy the text, I ended up re-typing the text that was right in front >>> of me in Emacs. Say what? For me, Emacs is a program where I expect to >>> never waste time re-typing anything. Magit has a similar feel to it, >>> and I can never be sure if the program will allow me to select text in >>> the diverse parts of its user interface. In my opinion, such >>> uncertainty is bad for power users. I would expect this from Apple or >>> Microsoft software, because their latest “UX designers” surely know >>> better than anyone, but in Emacs? >> I am not sure if this is something specific to modern interfaces, or >> rather an overreaching when it comes to binding. After a while I managed >> to "pin-point" what was irritating me, and it was the missing ability to >> search (something that I seem to do so passively that i didn't even >> notice it). Having C-s work is especially useful when there are a lot of >> transient options. This cannot be solved by binding C-s manually, >> as just because that might work for me, there is some other behaviour >> someone else is expecting (eg. your example of selecting and copying >> text). >> >> What I understand transient and certain other packages do is basically >> override most keys, even those it doesn't use. This is more invasive >> than special-mode, that just doesn't bind self-insert-command to most >> keys. What I wonder is why this is done/why it might be necessary. >> >>> R+