From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dmitry Gutov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Renaming eglot -- or at least add an alias? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:297143 Archived-At: On 07.10.2022 09:34, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > We can (and will) make it easier for > users to understand what its features do, by labeling the menus and > describing in the doc strings and help-echo strings what the commands > and variables really do and what effect they have on Emacs. Indeed we'll probably get the most bang for the buck by adding a menu entry or two which could say something like Language Servers -> Connect Language Servers -> Shutdown without renaming the package or its commands. We could put them alongside EDE's and Semantic's menu entries. Or maybe instead, given that EDE is not the recommended choice for "Project Support" anymore, and we don't usually recommend Semantic to new users either.