Re: Should https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/Fullscreen-mode-on-MS_002dWindows.html be renamed to Maxmize-mode-on-MS_002dWindows.html ?

[David Hedlund <public@beloved.name>]

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On 2023-10-23 15:02, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> From: Stefan Kangas<stefankangas@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 15:24:36 -0700
>>
>> David Hedlund<public@beloved.name>  writes:
>>
>>> Also, people expect GUIs that can start with a maximized window to not
>>> gradually expand it. Emacs is the only GUI that behaves this way of all
>>> the GUIs that I'm currently using.
>> Right, but taking a step back here: should we consider that as a bug?
>>
>> IOW, instead of documenting workarounds, why isn't --maximized fixed to
>> not have the "slightly distracting visual effect"?  Is that impractical
>> for some reason?
> Is this really about --maximized?  I thought this was about
> customizations in the init file that cause frames to be maximized.

Thank you for assisting me Eli, that is exactly what this is all about.

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To avoid the slightly distracting visual effect of Emacs starting with 
its default frame size and then growing to fullscreen, you can modify 
|.emacs.d/early-init.el| instead of .emacs (thanks Chad).

   (push '(fullscreen . maximized) default-frame-alist)

It works even if it takes time to load a typical .emacs configuration, 
and has been successfully tested in GNU/Linux (both X11, and Wayland), 
and Windows.

The push function in Emacs is used to add an element to the beginning of 
a list. In the expression (push ‘(fullscreen . maximized) 
default-frame-alist), the ‘(fullscreen . maximized) list is added to the 
beginning of the default-frame-alist list. The default-frame-alist 
variable is a list of property lists that are used to configure the 
initial appearance of Emacs frames. Each property list in the 
default-frame-alist variable contains a set of key-value pairs that 
specify properties for the frame.

*Essentially the code above will make emacs behave like `emacs 
--maximize` automatically each time when you open it, because the 
--maximize argument also opens Emacs without the slightly distracting 
visual effect.*

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I think I failed with the bold text, can you please rephrase it for me, 
Eli? I really want to use --maximize as a reference since it is inbuilt 
Emacs.



> The --maximized switch creates the frame maximized from the get-go
> here.
>
A few days ago I posted this:

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I like Chad's solution to |.emacs.d/early-init.el: |(push '(fullscreen . 
maximized) default-frame-alist)

However, I'd like to compare it with the Lisp code that is executed by 
`emacs --maximize`, can someone please help with find it?

If it's better than Chad's solution, then I'm willing to update "To 
avoid the slightly distracting visual effect" 
(https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/FullScreen#h5o-3) with code and a 
comment to the source file where this code is found.

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For starters, is it even possible to reuse all source code from 
--maximize in |early-init.el |or is it written in C?


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