From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Agustin Martin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Spam in the bug tracker Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 13:39:49 +0200 Message-ID: References: <18948.8699.150965.722891@volvox1.sbl> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1242301968 5222 80.91.229.12 (14 May 2009 11:52:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 11:52:48 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 14 13:52:40 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M4ZUN-00083O-RV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 13:52:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37461 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M4ZUN-0002Ep-8F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 07:52:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M4ZI6-0006ec-9r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 07:39:58 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M4ZI0-0006cp-Q4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 07:39:57 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37102 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M4ZI0-0006cX-HX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 07:39:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]:44184) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M4ZI0-0007FE-7K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 May 2009 07:39:52 -0400 Original-Received: by fxm17 with SMTP id 17so1314964fxm.42 for ; Thu, 14 May 2009 04:39:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hTHwwUI4SOR4B2ESGnfCsk4EoDQtg9xTcugRa0Z20ZU=; b=NSicixdcTVTFFXWuzqcRfdC5AdQ1vKlxGOvabqnQnCGnvOt3hUreJBve60dxuNwSc5 e80bfpbl9lzupIYJ1+wOCFwp6/BDB6CJsci4umkuLRxUzHXRQ5yAlRJmWu+MJsmPr+C+ R7DYoawvwQZkC09IjuLCDRUxakOEI5NIVzm7M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=yH+vh1gxwodAMyO97UGrHy/xz1OmimAU+CBZC+5kMqkQ6YegluRrqDVlPbU70I2Xg0 BVQsSgsezKyTymAlHrrJNJ7JeX4CsBtYTQN+Y0yLd+5YkQGd6U9a4N/ZBnrNdjLYgvwZ Hl39tG7+aDEjuBvgzUHeV31TkhLiDo9lOjgyo= Original-Received: by 10.103.108.18 with SMTP id k18mr1500851mum.40.1242301189972; Thu, 14 May 2009 04:39:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: b3dcd3df7d15805a X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:110870 Archived-At: 2009/5/8 Stefan Monnier : >>> Would it be possible to limit the bug tracker to mailing list >>> subscribers? One can turn off receiving the list email in mailman, so >>> it shouldn't be too much to ask for of users to subscribe. They don't >>> need to get all that mail in their inboxes if they don't want to. Or >>> would this requirement be a problem for report-emacs-bug? >> Yes, it would be a problem for report-emacs-bug. We need to come up >> with a way to get rid of the spam before it hits the tracker without >> causing anyone too much work. > > The solution is known, stop looking for it: the bug-reporting address > needs to be moderated. =A0As for the problem, it is that we have very > little control over emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com and over the email > processing at gnu.org, so any solution we come up with will currently > not be applicable. In the Debian bug tracker, a new message needs to have a special pseudo-header to open a bug report. It would be good If only messages sent to report-emacs-bug starting with something like Package: emacs automatically start a new bug report. This seems currently disabled. A similar pseudo-header may also be required for a message be automatically accepted when sent to the bug address or close a bug report (Note that this is currently not done in Debian). Everything else could go through moderation, if there is enough people to handle it and the bug tracker allows that.