From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Rodgers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: sh-here-document-word should be customizable Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 15:31:22 -0600 Message-ID: References: <4n8y3ubjkd.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1112909547 22681 80.91.229.2 (7 Apr 2005 21:32:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 07 23:32:25 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJebN-0007Tb-Eo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:31:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJeAk-0006IJ-S7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:04:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DJeAM-0006Ac-JB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:03:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DJeAD-000663-Ob for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:03:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DJeAD-00063h-JL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:03:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA:16) (Exim 4.34) id 1DJecv-0007m7-P0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:33:26 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DJeZO-0007Dl-5J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:29:46 +0200 Original-Received: from 207.167.42.60 ([207.167.42.60]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:29:46 +0200 Original-Received: from ihs_4664 by 207.167.42.60 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:29:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 27 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.167.42.60 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (X11/20041105) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <4n8y3ubjkd.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:35712 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:35712 Ted Zlatanov wrote: > I wonder why sh-here-document-word is defined with a defvar instead of > a defcustom in progmodes/sh-script.el. It should be customizable from > the default value of "EOF," I think. Is it too esoteric for most users? I don't know about most users, but I find it annoying that: 1. The "EOF\n\nEOF" string is inserted and point is moved between the newlines, as soon as I type "<<". I almost always use the "<<-" syntax, so that I can indent the here document between the command and terminating word by tabs for readability. Could sh-maybe-here-document be enhanced to wait (say 1 second) for a `-' input event before inserting the template, and then insert a tab before point if it sees the `-'? 2. I prefer a space after redirection operators, but putting a space at the beginning of sh-here-document-word doesn't produce a valid shell command, because the same space is inserted by sh-maybe-here-document. (The shell only ignores leading tabs -- not spaces -- before the word, and only if the "<<-" syntax is used.) 3. For command foo, I like to use _foo for the terminating word. But sh-here-document-word is static, not dynamic. Thanks, -- Kevin