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From: MON KEY <monkey@sandpframing.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: file-truename, convert-standard-filename
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 22:52:33 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d2afcfda1002051952o38c69dbdh28e57d8d06d8316f@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

Re: file-truename, convert-standard-filename,

,----
| I've read the replies from Andreas, Stefan, and you, and it's clear
| that this is clear to all of you, but I still don't get it, based on
| what you've said so far.
`----

FWIW I don't get the impression that it is entirely clear that it is
clear to these parties either.

The distinction which should be clarified in the docs is that between a
file as an object and the name of that object as a string.

I recently had the unpleasure of learning that the file-truename of an
empty string is `default-directory'.

 (file-truename "")

I was expecting nil ...

It has since been made more clear to me that the result `must' be a
directory, it allows such as this:

 (dired (file-relative-name (file-truename "")))

This said, I continue to have occasion for surprise when Emacs does
treat files as objects e.g.:

(require 'file)

In this case the string got hidden behind &optional ... tricky tricky.




             reply	other threads:[~2010-02-06  3:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-06  3:52 MON KEY [this message]
2010-02-06  8:28 ` file-truename, convert-standard-filename Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <d2afcfda1002061814nc3e178fl5d93e21ea6bae7b5@mail.gmail.com>
2010-02-07  2:16     ` MON KEY
     [not found]     ` <83wrypelms.fsf@gnu.org>
2010-02-07 23:26       ` MON KEY
2010-02-08  0:28         ` Andreas Schwab
2010-02-08  4:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <d2afcfda1002091330y53017b24w5e6bdf3c3d131a97@mail.gmail.com>
2010-02-09 21:32             ` MON KEY
2010-02-09 21:59               ` Andreas Schwab
2010-02-09 22:32             ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-02-05 17:31 Drew Adams
2010-02-05 18:15 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-02-05 18:33   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-05 19:45     ` Andreas Schwab
2010-02-05 19:49       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-05 20:14     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-02-05 20:18       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-06  1:10       ` Miles Bader
2010-02-05 23:51   ` Drew Adams
2010-02-05 19:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-05 23:51   ` Drew Adams
2010-02-06  0:17     ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-06  8:45       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 16:55         ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-06 19:12           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 19:20             ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-06  9:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 15:33       ` Drew Adams
2010-02-06 19:33         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 20:46           ` Drew Adams
2010-02-06 21:58             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-06 23:12               ` Drew Adams
2010-02-07  4:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-08  1:38                 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-02-08  2:46                   ` Drew Adams
2010-02-26 18:33                 ` Davis Herring
2010-02-26 19:12                   ` Drew Adams
2010-02-26 19:35                     ` Davis Herring
2010-02-26 20:25                       ` Drew Adams

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