From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: MON KEY Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: authinfo gnutls netrc.el auth-sources & smtpmail-starttls-credentials Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 23:49:41 -0400 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1244605797 10050 80.91.229.12 (10 Jun 2009 03:49:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 03:49:57 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 10 05:49:55 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MEEov-0005AA-RU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:49:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44013 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MEEov-0003JE-5C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:49:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MEEoq-0003J9-CD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:49:44 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MEEop-0003Iu-72 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:49:43 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43530 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MEEop-0003Ir-3f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:49:43 -0400 Original-Received: from yw-out-1718.google.com ([74.125.46.154]:9412) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MEEoo-00053g-OO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:49:42 -0400 Original-Received: by yw-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 5so243103ywm.66 for ; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.151.49.4 with SMTP id b4mr1721062ybk.288.1244605781920; Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:49:41 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111407 Archived-At: use of .authinfo.gpg implies auth-sources.el (or will soon) auth-sources wants netrc.el per `auth-source-user-or-password' netrc.el defines a var `netrc-services' that is hard bound to "/etc/services" How is this going to remain secure/stable/reliable across platforms - esp. going forward in lieu of emerging and recent new functionality with auth-sources, epa, epg? If netrc.el wants to hardwire the `netrc-services-file' he should be mindful that not all systems have this path available - maybe a defcustom is in order here? It doesn't look like this oversight can pose an immediate problem because where the `/etc/services' is missing netrc.el just ignores the void... and quietly proceeds - still... is that a _good_ thing? Why not just inline the entirety of /etc/services's '("protocol" "port" "comment") list in netrc.el and/or include that list of triples in `../emac/etc/services_subst' as a fallback for users/systems which either lack the file and/or don't have read permission. {... Backstory: i just spent a day and a half debugging a Gnutls bug on a Gnu/Linux system b/c of the recent 2.6.X RSA/DSA snafu before i was able to uncover the reason i was getting funny smtp errors while configuring Gnus. That said, it wasn't a total loss as I was subsequently able to get both GnuPG and Gnutls working out of the box on a w32 system... with more or less current binaries, having grabbed the recent w32 2.8.x builds my second time around. Thanks Simon Josefsson et al for the fresh binaries :) ...} s_P