From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-25 a9c48d5: Additional fixes for file notification Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 09:11:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: <20160222175244.30186.2617@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <87k2lwv5ob.fsf@gmx.de> <87egc4v4hs.fsf@gmx.de> <8bd4ec21-1306-41bf-aca7-5571a3014337@default> <87r3g4js64.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456247533 6866 80.91.229.3 (23 Feb 2016 17:12:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:12:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kaushal Modi , Michael Albinus , Emacs developers To: Stefan Monnier , Oleh Krehel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 23 18:12:01 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aYGVE-0005ty-Ej for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:12:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58667 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYGVD-0001CT-Rz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:11:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57054) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYGV7-0001BL-Iy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:11:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYGV3-00072v-Lo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:11:53 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:32155) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aYGV3-00072f-Fr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 12:11:49 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u1NHBik2018924 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:11:45 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1NHBiZG031544 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:11:44 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0003.oracle.com (abhmp0003.oracle.com [141.146.116.9]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1NHBhap000360; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 17:11:43 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200547 Archived-At: > Better move the few commonly used thingies out of cl-lib > and remove their "cl-" prefix. As we've already done over the years > with push/pop/dolist/dotimes/setf/... Just remove their prefixes. Do that to _all_ thingies that do not have a conflict with existing Emacs-Lisp thingies with the same name. The question of which of them should be moved out of cl-lib and into preloaded Emacs files should be based on how much we expect them to be used. But it is a different question from what their names should be. The question about _naming_ should be based on: 1. Whether they do, in fact, correspond to something in Common Lisp. If not, remove prefix `cl-' and move them somewhere else. File `cl-lib.el' and thingies prefixed `cl-' should correspond to Common Lisp thingies (or to internal implementations of Common Lisp thingies). 2. Whether the name without `cl-' conflicts with an existing Emacs-Lisp name. If not, remove prefix `cl-' (and leave them in `cl-lib').