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From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Opaque objects and Emacs documentation
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2020 19:37:16 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d2205564-f9f8-00d3-6b0f-d3e9ec786ce5@yandex.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83d04nfr5q.fsf@gnu.org>

On 22.07.2020 19:30, Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> If I drop both instances of the word "general" from the sentence I
>> quoted, there will be nothing left.
> 
> In _my_ sentence above there's only one "general".  the other one is
> "generics", a different word.

Same root, similar purpose.

Describing what generics return is fine, the project-current's docstring 
already does that, actually. The issue is in the manner of the 
description. You insist on describing the data structure (as opposed to 
describing associated behaviors), but the callers of that function 
should never need it.

>>>> And speaking of "transient", it's not helpful to say it returns a cons
>>>> (transient . root) because that doesn't say anything about the project
>>>> behavior anyway (which is the important part).
>>>
>>> A backend that receives such an object will need to be prepared for
>>> it.
>>
>> The backend returned that value, so it is surely prepared.
> 
> No, it's project-current that did.

project-current received it from the backend and returned it to the caller.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-22 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2020-07-12 20:07   ` master 0339325: ; * lisp/progmodes/project.el (project-current): Doc fix Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-13  3:48     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-13 11:09       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-13 13:21         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-13 14:14           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-16 22:40           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17  6:56             ` Opaque objects and Emacs documentation Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17  8:13               ` tomas
2020-07-17 10:40                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 15:38                   ` tomas
2020-07-17 10:37               ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-07-17 10:46                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 10:53                   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-07-17 10:53               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 11:14                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 12:02                   ` Noam Postavsky
2020-07-17 12:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 13:09                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 13:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 14:35                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 14:59                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 15:03                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-18  1:54                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-18 19:17                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-19  2:27                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-19 14:48                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 19:00                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:36                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 20:56                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 21:06                                       ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-07-21 20:49                                     ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-07-21 20:59                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 21:20                                         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2020-07-21 21:25                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:08                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:38                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 21:02                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 20:29                                     ` John Yates
2020-07-22  0:45                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 14:08                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-19 22:02                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-20  2:44                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-21  1:09                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21  8:57                                   ` tomas
2020-07-21 10:14                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 10:29                                       ` tomas
2020-07-21 14:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 18:56                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 19:33                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-21 21:31                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 14:28                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-22 15:44                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 16:30                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-22 16:37                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov [this message]
2020-07-21 19:36                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-07-21 21:17                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-21 22:12                                       ` Edebug (was: Opaque objects and Emacs documentation) Stefan Monnier
2020-07-22 14:31                                       ` Opaque objects and Emacs documentation Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-22 15:33                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 16:22                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-22 16:26                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-23  4:04                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-23 13:42                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-22 11:43                               ` João Távora
2020-07-17 13:08                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 13:42                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 14:22                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 14:56                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 16:56                   ` John Yates
2020-07-17 17:13                     ` Drew Adams
2020-07-17 19:04                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-17 19:26                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 19:25                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 11:53                 ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-07-17 13:13                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 14:26                     ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-07-17 16:58                       ` Drew Adams
2020-07-17 19:22                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 22:30                         ` Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions.
2020-07-18  0:00                         ` Yuan Fu
2020-07-18  1:01                           ` Drew Adams
2020-07-18  1:55                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-07-17 16:48               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-07-23 23:24                 ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-23 23:40                   ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-24  5:32                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-24 11:23                       ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-24 11:43                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-24  0:43                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-24  1:22                     ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-24  5:47                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-25 16:33                         ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-25 16:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-25 20:18                             ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-26  2:27                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-26  9:16                                 ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-26 14:02                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-24 20:49                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-25 16:38                         ` Andy Moreton
2020-07-24  5:45                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-07-24 14:56                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-24 17:21                         ` Drew Adams
2020-07-24 17:42                           ` Eli Zaretskii
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2020-07-17 15:41               ` Drew Adams
2020-07-17 15:49                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-07-17 15:59                   ` Drew Adams

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