From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Some developement questions Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 07:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <<8336v6cvem.fsf@gnu.org>> <<8736v6icgt.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83tvnmb958.fsf@gnu.org>> <<877ekigiiw.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <837ekhb2me.fsf@gnu.org>> <<87zhxcbmtr.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83in409lub.fsf@gnu.org>> <<871sanb71j.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <83y3cu7t9j.fsf@gnu.org>> <<87lg8t2ki9.fsf@himinbjorg.adminart.net> <20180827015422.lcq44zvsjffeau4j@Ergus>> <<83a7p76f5e.fsf@gnu.org> <87lg8p9o6y.fsf@russet.org.uk>> <<83pnxx1foj.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1o1a06q.fsf@russet.org.uk>> <<877ek1ql6u.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <87tvn2g665.fsf@russet.org.uk> > <<83r2i6wv4v.fsf@gnu.org>> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1536245702 17147 195.159.176.226 (6 Sep 2018 14:55:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: hw@adminart.net, spacibba@aol.com, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 06 16:54:58 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fxvgP-0004Kc-FD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2018 16:54:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34076 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxviV-0000XD-Mi for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:57:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42264) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxvhw-0000Wp-0R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:56:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxvhv-0001nT-89 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:56:31 -0400 Original-Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:57890) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fxvhm-0001S9-50; Thu, 06 Sep 2018 10:56:25 -0400 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w86Es503147168; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:56:16 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2018-07-02; bh=wJY/AJS7HtWF7GeG8178XV48fv0c7aJsHEXdtS3KqzI=; b=Z4KdbsjiGi3EZdPN3O5MIR0ugwZqMN4fE1wK+SjB79gEBbjP6ujFG4E6INIT5jY3+i8n HLkMvjgASZkaKAv0iX4vXexAZ19iobKdpoKyMljJmds6iPTmLXPzATtGv+d0oTG8QAuM ngi4IVy/MnprG7vu4fLVG3bVEgg1I+h+iU8WITxP4IDwMyT1t49HNa/MkOW24ZOK9H8O jdcOR2W2XkxEA5s5IjnyakrqpBvOaxPnQm0RWE+wI3x6Jh/6yh5gtaf17x4SbElS9vK1 6ZtX49khBBwnJFUPdkoCB1KsdZ4EGfLnyAf4H9n6x0mDxQoU5LcHdBvDOPJWwW6P2QK5 7g== Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2m7j6tvpk4-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 06 Sep 2018 14:56:16 +0000 Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id w86EuFoB027818 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:56:15 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0016.oracle.com (abhmp0016.oracle.com [141.146.116.22]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id w86EuEh9009340; Thu, 6 Sep 2018 14:56:14 GMT In-Reply-To: <<83r2i6wv4v.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4732.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=5900 definitions=9007 signatures=668708 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=686 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1807170000 definitions=main-1809060147 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 156.151.31.86 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:229353 Archived-At: > > we should turn on `delete-selection-mode' by default. >=20 > I don't think we can, because it gets in the way when editing code. How so? It doesn't get in my way. Quite the contrary - I appreciate it for editing code. Please give a recipe, if you're really interested in discussing this again. And in that case, please start a new thread for it. > We could turn it on in text modes, perhaps. >=20 > But anyway, we already have non-annoying portions of > delete-selection-mode turned on by default (shift-selection etc.). Not the same thing at all. In the wider world, behaviors of/like both `delete-selection-mode' and shift-selection are on by default (and they are typically all that is available).