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From: Sebastian Sturm <s.sturm@arkona-technologies.de>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: State of the overlay tree branch?
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 22:04:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cee01726-a91d-69c2-a52b-7e7e86164b0b@arkona-technologies.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <834lldp18f.fsf@gnu.org>

I also found it surprising that overlays would slow down line counting, 
but since I don't know anything about the architecture of the Emacs 
display engine, or its overlay implementation, I figured that overlays 
must be to blame because

(i) the issue went away after switching to the feature/noverlay branch

(ii) configuring the semantic highlighter to use its font-lock backend 
also resolved the performance issue (though with the font-lock backend, 
highlights are easily messed up by editing operations which makes the 
overlay variant far more appealing)

I also found that some other heavy users of overlays such as 
avy-goto-word-0-{above,below} feel faster with the feature/noverlay 
branch, so I'd welcome a merge of the overlay branch even if there was a 
technically superior alternative to line-number-at-pos that didn't 
suffer from overlay-related performance issues.

That being said, your suggestion sounds intriguing. What would be 
required to expose find_newline to Lisp? Would I simply have to wrap it 
in one of Emacs's DEFINE_<something> macros? Is there some documentation 
on the Emacs C backend?

On 03/18/2018 09:39 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
 >> From: Sebastian Sturm <s.sturm@arkona-technologies.de>
 >> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 21:14:53 +0100
 >>
 >> [1] I'm using cquery for my C++ editing needs, which comes with an
 >> overlay-based semantic highlighting mechanism. With my emacs
 >> configuration, lsp-mode/lsp-ui emit 6 calls to line-number-at-pos per
 >> character insertion, which consume ~20 to 25 ms each when performing
 >> edits close to the bottom of a 66KB C++ file (measured using
 >> (benchmark-run 1000 (line-number-at-pos (point))) on a release build of
 >> emacs-27/git commit #9942734...). Using the noverlay branch, this figure
 >> drops to ~160us per call.
 >
 > If lsp-mode/lsp-ui needs a fast line counter, one can easily be
 > provided by exposing find_newline to Lisp.  IME, it's lightning-fast,
 > and should run circles around count-lines (used by line-number-at-pos).
 >
 > (I'm not sure I even understand how overlays come into play here,
 > btw.)



  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-18 21:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-03-18 20:14 State of the overlay tree branch? Sebastian Sturm
2018-03-18 20:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-18 21:04   ` Sebastian Sturm [this message]
2018-03-18 23:03     ` Sebastian Sturm
2018-03-18 23:20       ` Sebastian Sturm
2018-03-19  6:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-19  9:53           ` Sebastian Sturm
2018-03-19 12:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-19 14:56             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-19 15:07               ` Sebastian Sturm
2018-03-19 15:13                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-20  1:23                 ` Sebastian Sturm
2018-03-20  6:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-21  0:36                     ` Sebastian Sturm
2018-03-21  6:47                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-22 13:16                       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-22 19:54                         ` Sebastian Sturm
2018-03-22 20:04                           ` Sebastian Sturm
2018-03-22 20:52                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-22 23:11                     ` Sebastian Sturm
2018-03-23  5:03                       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-23 12:25                         ` Sebastian Sturm
2018-03-23 12:47                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-23 13:19                             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-23 13:37                               ` Noam Postavsky
2018-03-23 13:55                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-23 14:22                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-23 14:39                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-23 19:39                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-25 15:11                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-25 16:39                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-25 17:35                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-23  8:07                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-23  9:08                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-23 10:15                           ` Sebastian Sturm
2018-03-23 12:39                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-23 12:12                           ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-23 12:40                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-23 12:55                               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-19  6:36       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-19  6:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-21 14:14   ` Sebastien Chapuis
2018-03-21 15:35     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-26 13:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-27 20:59   ` Sebastian Sturm
     [not found] <<c24f8534-5245-026e-da18-f6be7b9702bf@arkona-technologies.de>
     [not found] ` <<834lldp18f.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-03-18 21:37   ` Drew Adams
2018-03-19  1:33     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-19  6:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-19 12:29         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-19 13:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-19 13:43             ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-19 14:28               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-03-19 14:39                 ` Stefan Monnier
2018-03-19  6:33     ` Eli Zaretskii

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