From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Request: Use message instead of message_with_string for user visible output? Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382807807 7532 80.91.229.3 (26 Oct 2013 17:16:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:16:47 +0000 (UTC) To: "T.V. Raman" , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 26 19:16:51 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Va7Tn-0008JC-2L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 19:16:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35456 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Va7Tm-0006BF-K1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:16:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55505) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Va7Td-0006BA-A9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:16:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Va7TW-00006V-6G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:16:41 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:40231) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Va7TW-00006N-0R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:16:34 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r9QHGVRn023572 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:16:31 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9QHGUGa008367 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:16:31 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9QHGUZm008362; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:16:30 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164563 Archived-At: > Emacspeak produces all its spoken feedback via advice --- so in > general, output that gets done purely through the C layer ends up > by-passing the advice layer. While you cannot advise C functions in general, you should at least be able to advise special forms (builtins). That you cannot currently advise special forms is a bug, and specifically a regression. Even the latest doc maintains that you can, even though this has been broken since Emacs 22. See bug #15666: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D15666