On 9/27/23 05:53, Corwin Brust wrote:
> Hi David
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 3:06 PM David Hedlund<public@beloved.name>  wrote:
>>
>> On 9/26/23 21:11, Emanuel Berg wrote:
>>
>> David Hedlund wrote:
>>
>> So my original email suggest a complete solution, is this
>> something we can add to a new page,
>> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/Fullscreen-mode-on-GNU-Linux.html
>> and then update it with improved solutions in the future?
>>
> AFAIK the HTML pages representing the online Emacs manual are defined
> within the sources for the manual, itself.  IOW, to add a "page" for
> this would entail creating a new manual section, at which the new page
> would appear when new HTML versions of the manual are published, along
> with some subsequent release of Emacs (say, the next major version, if
> the change was made in the development branch).


Thank you!


>
>> Subject URL was new for me if nothing else :P
>>
>> Methods to always maximize `emacs` (for example, from Alt+F2 in MATE), without the slightly distracting visual effect when the default frame size is growing to fullscreen. The window will be maximized quickly, like "emacs --maximize".
>>
> This seems like very helpful information.  As a precursor --or even an
> alternative-- to proposing a patch to the manual to provide these
> examples, what would you think of adding this into the EmacsWiki?   I
> believe it is not unheard of to link from the manual to EmacsWiki,
> thus you could potentially simplify the patch involved by proposing
> adding some minimal explanation and a link (rather than
> providing/motivating a patch adding -e.g.- a section).

As far as I know, the devilspie2/.emacs solution that I figured out, is 
the /only/ way to make emacs behave like `emacs -mm` right now. Both of 
them will:

* Always run the settings regardless how emacs is opened (e.g. Alt+F2 in 
MATE) despite that an external program (devilspie2) is used.

* The buffer will:

** Expand automatically when emacs opens

** Expand quickly like `emacs -mm`

* Like `emacs -mm`, the size of ~/.emacs does not impact the time it 
takes to expand the buffer.

This makes the devilspie2 solution unique, since all solutions at 
https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/FullScreen makes the buffer expand 
slowly. That's why I suggest that we should add my devilspie2/.emacs 
solution to 
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/Fullscreen-mode-on-GNU-Linux.html


>
>> GNU/Linux - proposed new section:https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/Fullscreen-mode-on-GNU-Linux.html
>>
>>
>> As far as I know, this cannot be done entirely with Emacs LISP for GNU/Linux, but I found a workaround by combining it with devilspie2.
>>
>>
>> I've successfully used this recipe for Trisquel 11:
>>
>> * Step 1 to quickly maximize the window[1]: Install, configure, and autostart devilspie2 to nearly maximize emacs[1]. Run this in a terminal or as a script:
>>
>> # Install devilspie2
>> sudo apt-get -y install devilspie2
>>
>> # Configure devilspie2
>> mkdir -p ~/.config/devilspie2/
>>
>> width="$(xrandr --current | grep '*' | uniq | awk '{print $1}' | cut -d 'x' -f1)"
>> height="$(xrandr --current | grep '*' | uniq | awk '{print $1}' | cut -d 'x' -f2)"
>>
>> tee ~/.config/devilspie2/emacs.lua /dev/null << EOF
>> if (get_class_instance_name() == "emacs") then
>>
>>      set_window_geometry(0, 0, $width, $height);
>>
>> end
>> EOF
>>
>> # Autostart devilspie2
>> mkdir -p "$HOME/.config/autostart/" # The directory does not exist by default
>> cd "$HOME/.config/autostart/" || exit
>> file="devilspie-2.desktop"
>> touch "$file"
>> desktop-file-edit \
>> --set-name="Devilspie 2" \
>> --set-comment="Perform scripted actions on windows as they are created" \
>> --set-key="Type" --set-value="Application" \
>> --set-key="Exec" --set-value="devilspie2" \
>> --set-key="X-MATE-Autostart-Delay" --set-value="0" \
>> "$file"
>> desktop-file-validate "$file"
>>
>> * Step 2 to quickly maximize the window[1]: Add this to ~/.emacs: (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(fullscreen . maximized))
>> * Log out and then log back into your desktop environment
>> * Every time you open `emacs`, regardless how you are opening it, it will open the window equally fast as `emacs --maximize`
>>
>> [1]: Workaround to bug: maximize* commands don't work for Emacs -https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/index.php?63979
>>
>>
>>
>> The above steps can of course be rewritten and described for general use to make it useful for any GNU/Linux distro.
> Thanks for figuring all this out!
>
> Corwin
>