From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Hedlund Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/Fullscreen-mode-on-MS_002dWindows.html Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 00:58:56 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1abb86af-6ea5-b588-ddd8-b08d520359ab@beloved.name> <83a5zntpwn.fsf@gnu.org> <6d33504f-58a5-e02f-b97c-dc6e181decc6@beloved.name> <838rf7tpc3.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------10lHP9dUNwmA0t6gHc0ytyf0" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30499"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.9.1 To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 05 00:59:53 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pjpd1-0007g0-1l for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Apr 2023 00:59:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pjpcH-0003up-7H; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 18:59:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pjpcF-0003ug-AX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 18:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.193]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pjpcD-0002JQ-1D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 18:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: public@beloved.name) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6250240002 for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2023 22:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.193; envelope-from=public@beloved.name; helo=relay1-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -44 X-Spam_score: -4.5 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.925, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305117 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------10lHP9dUNwmA0t6gHc0ytyf0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 04/04/2023 21:34, David Hedlund wrote: > > > On 04/04/2023 21:33, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 21:24:57 +0200 >>> Cc:Emacs-devel@gnu.org >>> From: David Hedlund >>> >>> Thanks, but resizing a frame doesn't make it fullscreen, does it? >>> >>> That's correct. This will only make it convenient to avoid the "avoid the slightly distracting visual effect of >>> Emacs starting with its default frame size and then growing to fullscreen" - >>> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/Fullscreen-mode-on-MS_002dWindows.html >>> without having to "compute the correct values for width and height". >> Does it really avoid the distraction? > > Yes it does. I've tried it several times to make sure it really works. > You can try it yourself on Windows. > Oh, I forgot to tell you: My solution only works for Windows, not GNU/Linux. So I understand if you got confused if you tried it in a distro. > >> The initial dimensions of the >> frame are not its final dimensions, so some resizing does take place, >> even with these customizations, doesn't it? --------------10lHP9dUNwmA0t6gHc0ytyf0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


On 04/04/2023 21:34, David Hedlund wrote:


On 04/04/2023 21:33, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 21:24:57 +0200
Cc: Emacs-devel@gnu.org
From: David Hedlund <public@beloved.name>

Thanks, but resizing a frame doesn't make it fullscreen, does it?

That's correct. This will only make it convenient to avoid the "avoid the slightly distracting visual effect of
Emacs starting with its default frame size and then growing to fullscreen" - 
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/Fullscreen-mode-on-MS_002dWindows.html
without having to "compute the correct values for width and height".

Does it really avoid the distraction?

Yes it does. I've tried it several times to make sure it really works. You can try it yourself on Windows.

Oh, I forgot to tell you: My solution only works for Windows, not GNU/Linux. So I understand if you got confused if you tried it in a distro.



The initial dimensions of the
frame are not its final dimensions, so some resizing does take place,
even with these customizations, doesn't it?
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