From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: ej32u@pm.me Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "modern" colors Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2020 14:21:53 +0000 Message-ID: Reply-To: ej32u@pm.me Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22523"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: spacibba@aol.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 12 16:22:55 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kH6QY-0005mS-JE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 16:22:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39910 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH6QX-00086x-M1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:22:53 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60928) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH6Pp-0007fM-VO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:22:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail1.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.18]:34216) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kH6Pn-0003uq-TV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Sep 2020 10:22:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pm.me; s=protonmail; t=1599920523; bh=zLslblSh1aQ2fHsAXk9RquYjVLxVbUAsPN4ByANhm6k=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:From; b=JzgxVkmF+duGQbP1ANu9Z8+Z4nghmxmUUh2U5qwiBNSi6flReuzHz89DCu2UKxA5s A4DzMtJhZRAbbV+sfIoM8cwYWb4V4SQUF8Lo9qePngBG3nzm4rKkv2TfMG93vKXaTc aOen6NPN9CzaSUVW5gV21DvpxZQNCxzSd+fpOVZzyZQgFXJQ6/FjnHU6KKq3HbAhdr 8pdDECixz+ol8wvZGlRfDKCDH3V/Ef/VbEapyQO/2IoMMhgYzw41SXkfDgrwo6rrIg WjUXrqQHAr1vYO5kcsfEvZnfbztU6q2GX4chVpoCUPhAISg1dFlGUdTZQHH0lN77l2 taAYdp0I6U+KA== Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.70.40.18; envelope-from=ej32u@pm.me; helo=mail1.protonmail.ch X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/12 10:22:03 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255352 Archived-At: From: =09Ergus Subject: =09Re: "modern" colors Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: =09Thu, 10 Sep 2020 20:58:50 +0200 I disagree. Once upon a time F10 was the universally accepted way. But everybody wanted to provide a menu and everybody bind it to F10 increasing the probability that someone intercepts it before arriving to emacs. If nowadays it is another key, or a group of other keys, we could still provide menus that don't need a mouse. Ok ----- There is the command `tmm-menu-bar' which is bound to "M-`". Would it make = sense=20 to remap this to `menu-bar-open' instead?