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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255039 Archived-At: > > How hard is it to find this submenu? > > > > `Options' > > > `Show/Hide' > > > `Line Numbers for All Lines' >=20 > By CUA, Show/Hide should be a top-level menu named View.=20 Really? Even for setting persistent preferences? I can imagine using `View' for changing something for the time being, but not necessarily for setting preferences (persistent configuration). `Options' provides both behaviors. [Some apps have an `Options' menu that stuff for non-persistent changes and a `Preferences' submenu for persisitent changes (configuration).] > Someone who is (subconsciously) familiar with that > convention will not think to look in Options. I, like everyone, use lots of apps. I have no idea which (if any) follow the CUA convention (nor do I care). Some of them have `View' menus (not always top-level). And some of them have `Preferences' or `Options' menus, sometimes as a submenu under `File', `Edit', or `Tools'. Different apps do things differently. I really don't think it's hard to find the ability to turn line-number display on/off, either temporarily or persistently, even for someone who might be looking for it under a nonexistent `View' menu. Do you? Not difficult, that is, provide the menu-bar is shown.