From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Text Mode Menu Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 10:49:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <20131005021456.GA22666@jo.hnanthony.com> <71dde3f7-c8ae-4aa8-904f-f72ce90e3d33@default> <20131007154710.GA32758@jo.hnanthony.com> <5252F267.3080700@lanl.gov> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381168189 30581 80.91.229.3 (7 Oct 2013 17:49:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:49:49 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Anthony , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Davis Herring Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 07 19:49:52 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VTEwJ-00076y-P4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 19:49:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:32790 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTEwJ-0005CY-Bg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:49:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54615) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTEw9-0005Ax-Hv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:49:50 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTEvy-0006r2-8n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:49:41 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:36540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTEvy-0006qS-1F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:49:30 -0400 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r97HnP9b004327 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:49:26 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r97HnOwA016512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:49:24 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt120.oracle.com (abhmt120.oracle.com [141.146.116.72]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r97HnOtJ007762; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:49:24 GMT In-Reply-To: <5252F267.3080700@lanl.gov> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 141.146.126.69 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:163958 Archived-At: > > This means that you need not add words in the menu item label to say > > that the thing is modal: "... Minor Mode". (Yes, one cannot tell from > > the toggle button alone that the mode is minor, but that is only minor > > info. ;-)) >=20 > Sure you can. You can't turn off a major mode (unless you count > `fundamental-mode'). Good point. What you cannot tell from looking at a toggle button is whether it represents a two-state variable or a minor mode. But who cares, in this context?