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From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
To: Bruno Haible <bruno@clisp.org>
Cc: "Robert Pluim" <rpluim@gmail.com>,
	bug-gnulib@gnu.org, "Pádraig Brady" <P@draigbrady.com>,
	"Sven Joachim" <svenjoac@gmx.de>,
	64937@debbugs.gnu.org, "Natanael Copa" <natanael.copa@gmail.com>,
	"Po Lu" <luangruo@yahoo.com>,
	"Emacs Development" <Emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
	"Thorsten Kukuk" <kukuk@suse.com>
Subject: Re: boot time on Linux
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 12:31:46 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c8c927bb-5e44-f26d-837e-ae6b73e60add@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3732835.vtg8X0x55z@nimes>

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[For those cc'ed, the thread's at <https://bugs.gnu.org/64937#142>.]

On 2023-08-09 07:29, Bruno Haible wrote:

> And on Alpine Linux, while /var/run/utmp is empty, its time stamp is
> essentially the boot time.
> 
> The approach used by Emacs, namely to look at the time stamp of
> /var/run/random-seed, is therefore essentially one of the best approaches.
> It just needs to also look at /var/lib/systemd/random-seed and - on Alpine
> Linux - /var/run/utmp .

Thanks for looking into this. Clearly Emacs had some catching up to do, 
since it was using a location for the random-seed file that current 
GNU/Linux distros no longer use. To try to fix this I installed the 
attached patch to Emacs master on Savannah.

This patch does not address the problem for Alpine, nor I suspect for 
Android. I suppose Alpine could use the timestamp of /var/run/utmp (or 
is that /run/utmp?) but I don't know how 'configure' would reliably 
detect it's being built or cross-built for Alpine. I'll cc this to 
Natanael Copa, who does the Alpine ports for Emacs, to see whether he 
can give advice.

Also, I don't know how Android records boot time so I'll cc this to Po 
Lu, the main developer for Emacs on Android.

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From cc0a30a876adffa5ec110df9f4e0f21097f6d73e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2023 12:06:25 -0700
Subject: [PATCH] Adjust to random-seed move

For some time, GNU/Linux systems have put their random-seed file
somewhere other than where src/filelock.c looks for it.
Catch up to this by having 'configure' scout for it.
* configure.ac (BOOT_TIME_FILE):
Define this at configure-time.
* nt/inc/ms-w32.h (BOOT_TIME_FILE): Override 'configure'.
* src/filelock.c (BOOT_TIME_FILE): Remove default definition,
since 'configure' defaults it now.
---
 configure.ac    | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 nt/inc/ms-w32.h |  1 +
 src/filelock.c  |  6 ------
 3 files changed, 32 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/configure.ac b/configure.ac
index 6e080c1c666..56c8cf1ae05 100644
--- a/configure.ac
+++ b/configure.ac
@@ -2625,6 +2625,37 @@ AC_DEFUN
 fi
 AC_SUBST([AUTO_DEPEND])
 
+AC_CACHE_CHECK([for old but post-boot file],
+  [emacs_cv_boot_time_file],
+  [AS_CASE([$opsys],
+     [*bsd|darwin|dragonfly],
+       [emacs_cv_boot_time_file='not needed'],
+     [emacs_cv_boot_time_file=unknown
+      AS_IF([test $cross_compiling = no],
+	[# systemd puts it in /var/lib/systemd.
+	 # initscripts puts it in /var/lib/urandom (previously /var/lib).
+	 # Linux drivers/char/random.c before 2022-02-21 suggests /var/run.
+	 for file in \
+	     /var/lib/systemd/random-seed \
+	     /var/lib/urandom/random-seed \
+	     /var/lib/random-seed \
+	     /var/run/random-seed
+	 do
+	   test -f $file && { emacs_cv_boot_time_file=$file; break; }
+	 done])])])
+AS_CASE([$emacs_cv_boot_time_file],
+  [/*|*:*], [BOOT_TIME_FILE=\"$emacs_cv_boot_time_file\"],
+  [NULL|nullptr|0], [BOOT_TIME_FILE=$emacs_cv_boot_time_file],
+  ['not needed'], [BOOT_TIME_FILE=NULL],
+  [# Guess systemd if unknown.
+   # If guess is wrong, Emacs falls back on something else.
+   BOOT_TIME_FILE=\"/var/lib/systemd/random-seed\"])
+AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED([BOOT_TIME_FILE], [$BOOT_TIME_FILE],
+  [Name of file that, if it exists, postdates boot and predates
+   the first Emacs invocation; or a null pointer if no such file is known.
+   This file is used only on GNU/Linux and other systems
+   that lack the FreeBSD-style sysctl with KERN_BOOTTIME.])
+
 #### Choose a window system.
 
 ## We leave window_system equal to none if
diff --git a/nt/inc/ms-w32.h b/nt/inc/ms-w32.h
index 58be1199345..b23fd5030fa 100644
--- a/nt/inc/ms-w32.h
+++ b/nt/inc/ms-w32.h
@@ -121,6 +121,7 @@ #define HAVE_C99_STRTOLD 1
    the output, but that's gross.  So this should do; if the file is
    not there, the boot time will be returned as zero, and filelock.c
    already handles that.  */
+#undef BOOT_TIME_FILE
 #define BOOT_TIME_FILE "C:/pagefile.sys"
 
 /* ============================================================ */
diff --git a/src/filelock.c b/src/filelock.c
index 66b8fd2ceac..0ad130353f3 100644
--- a/src/filelock.c
+++ b/src/filelock.c
@@ -59,12 +59,6 @@ Copyright (C) 1985-1987, 1993-1994, 1996, 1998-2023 Free Software
 #include <utmp.h>
 #endif
 
-/* A file whose last-modified time is just after the most recent boot.
-   Define this to be NULL to disable checking for this file.  */
-#ifndef BOOT_TIME_FILE
-#define BOOT_TIME_FILE "/var/run/random-seed"
-#endif
-
 /* Boot time is not available on Android.  */
 
 #if defined HAVE_ANDROID && !defined ANDROID_STUBIFY
-- 
2.39.2


       reply	other threads:[~2023-08-09 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87tttmpt5h.fsf@turtle.gmx.de>
     [not found] ` <20230808173430.GA27131@suse.com>
     [not found]   ` <26226778.6c9BZvbsD2@nimes>
     [not found]     ` <3732835.vtg8X0x55z@nimes>
2023-08-09 19:31       ` Paul Eggert [this message]
2023-08-09 21:06         ` boot time on Linux Bruno Haible
2023-08-09 23:53         ` Po Lu
2023-08-10  0:14           ` Bruno Haible
2023-08-10  2:14             ` Po Lu
2023-08-10  6:22               ` Paul Eggert
2023-08-10  6:58                 ` Po Lu
2023-08-10 10:30               ` Bruno Haible
2023-08-10 12:23                 ` bug#64937: " Po Lu via GNU coreutils Bug Reports
2023-08-10 12:25                   ` Bruno Haible
2023-08-10 13:04                     ` Po Lu
2023-08-10 14:12                       ` Bruno Haible
2023-08-11  8:27                         ` Po Lu
2023-08-10  9:30         ` Natanael Copa
2023-08-10  9:38           ` Po Lu
2023-08-10 10:05             ` Natanael Copa
2023-08-10 15:30           ` Bruno Haible

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