From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ken Raeburn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Darwin support for lisp/battery.el. Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:41:30 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8764vtxusp.fsf@xs4all.nl> <85mzp3a8am.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87d5pz8qoq.fsf@xs4all.nl> <851x6fa4pa.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v622) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1120446008 12523 80.91.229.2 (4 Jul 2005 03:00:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 03:00:08 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 04 05:00:05 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpHBU-00014d-Is for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2005 04:59:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpHCf-0006zi-0V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 23:01:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DpH7A-0005tJ-PR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:55:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1DpH6t-0005nx-4o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:55:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DpH6s-0005ch-UI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:55:02 -0400 Original-Received: from [207.172.4.63] (helo=smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1DpGzV-0003qE-Rv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Jul 2005 22:47:25 -0400 Original-Received: from 65-78-24-4.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO raeburn.org) (65.78.24.4) by smtp04.mrf.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 03 Jul 2005 22:41:32 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: i="3.93,254,1115006400"; d="scan'208"; a="54716887:sNHT22414596" Original-Received: from [18.101.0.226] (laptop.raeburn.org [18.101.0.226]) by raeburn.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j642fV3q007369; Sun, 3 Jul 2005 22:41:31 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <851x6fa4pa.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.622) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:40296 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:40296 On Jul 3, 2005, at 18:46, David Kastrup wrote: > So the proper verbage in this context would be "Linux" and "Darwin > kernel". In neither case does GNU come into play. If one wants to > drive home some point, one can say "Linux kernel" and "Darwin > kernel". I don't think the two cases are quite that similar. In one case, Emacs is interacting with a file or directory interface provided by the Linux kernel; in the other, Emacs is communicating with a program called "pmset", the implementation of which, in theory, doesn't have to be tied to any particular OS kernel. (And, BTW, the "-g ps" arguments given don't seem to do anything on my laptop running 10.3, kernel 7.9.0; I don't know if that means it's just not a supported option on my laptop for some reason, which would seem kind of strange, or if the "ps" option wasn't added until 10.4.) Ken