From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Fermin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CEDET maintainer Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 22:54:32 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8019"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.6.1 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 27 22:55:57 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lQGuT-0001z6-Q2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 22:55:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57354 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lQGuS-0005Ts-T3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:55:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48698) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lQGtE-0004v2-TF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:54:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:46537) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lQGtC-0005h2-Cf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 17:54:40 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5260716005C for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 22:54:35 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1616882075; bh=q75klmjukZveQ1CeV8XQWe6U5bH1Ft/EtGvwKIajM0U=; h=Subject:To:Cc:From:Date:From; b=ry+V/bXSYBsdlCwtFkO6EL1/L6BWmivdXIfvqquQjSIvog5ngHIQArsc4r6GJJTXx w8EsPqNbJsWEaez3RMhObMt23hKqVgXevDRg5PXO6TL+nlcA+NC9k3N8S0kSYJtxOS DX9LnK49sccJiWHWM7fnDnFdocazFRL1d1yXSjMNdXQnwrt9rkmr0jFaDN+8cAccLj W9X2ZziY7SMOHbQPPm2WItCcpvOAN+qFYCObN7VosossQfAYMsprAWuds20wCxGw6o 2grMiwgEaZ7mHXWchL003QcYEHXak5AtjMYoxzRvqCe2pFbKHw2GTmZ5mFBBV0YnsU yKoDuj7rR5+fQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4F7CL16SCrz6tmT; Sat, 27 Mar 2021 22:54:33 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=fmfs@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267119 Archived-At: Hello Stefan, > I think the first thing would be to start the copyright assignment > process so that your contributions can be incorporated into Emacs. > For that please fill the form below and send it to the FSF as instructed > so they can send you the relevant paperwork to sign. I already sign the papers for contributing to Emacs (mostly because I contributed to the GNU Emba repository). > I'm not very familiar with CEDET, but having converted it recently to > use lexical-binding, I'm a bit less lost in it, let's say. So I'd be > happy to play the middle man between Emacs's `master` and you until we > feel comfortable giving you direct write access. That's great!, thanks for that > - IIRC there were changes in the upstream CEDET code which still haven't > been merged into Emacs's `master`. Yes, I talked with Eric, and there are test and other code that wasn't merge, among related packages like cogre, which didn't merge into Emacs at the time, adapting the code to fit in master would in deed be really interesting. > Anand Tamariya has a branch of CEDET (sadly > based on Emacs as of a year ago) at https://gitlab.com/atamariya/emacs > which includes various interesting additions (such as an SQL > grammar). I recently started to try and work with him to start > merging some of those changes into Emacs's `master`. I talked with Anand privately about the changes, I think they can be a nice additions to CEDET, I can help with the merging process. Regards, Fermin On 27/03/2021 22:22, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Hi, > >> I'm proposing myself as a CEDET maintainer, > Excellent! > >> If the Emacs maintainers, decide that I'm worthy of it, my initial >> idea is to develop CEDET in a separate branch for now, even tho >> I think the send patch workflow is valid, for a package like CEDET >> that needs a lot of changes, this can really slow down the process. > I think the first thing would be to start the copyright assignment > process so that your contributions can be incorporated into Emacs. > For that please fill the form below and send it to the FSF as instructed > so they can send you the relevant paperwork to sign. > > I'm not very familiar with CEDET, but having converted it recently to > use lexical-binding, I'm a bit less lost in it, let's say. So I'd be > happy to play the middle man between Emacs's `master` and you until we > feel comfortable giving you direct write access. > > Adding an Semantic backend to Xref would indeed be a great first step. > Other things that come to mind in terms of maintenance: > - IIRC there were changes in the upstream CEDET code which still haven't > been merged into Emacs's `master`. > - Anand Tamariya has a branch of CEDET (sadly > based on Emacs as of a year ago) at https://gitlab.com/atamariya/emacs > which includes various interesting additions (such as an SQL > grammar). I recently started to try and work with him to start > merging some of those changes into Emacs's `master`. > These branches are evidence of the need to try and merge things into > Emacs's `master` promptly and regularly, otherwise it becomes hard to > get them merged back and the risk of them getting lost in the long term > is high. > > > Stefan > > > Please email the following information to assign@gnu.org, and we > will send you the assignment form for your past and future changes. > > Please use your full legal name (in ASCII characters) as the subject > line of the message. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > REQUEST: SEND FORM FOR PAST AND FUTURE CHANGES > > [What is the name of the program or package you're contributing to?] > Emacs > > [Did you copy any files or text written by someone else in these changes? > Even if that material is free software, we need to know about it.] > > > [Do you have an employer who might have a basis to claim to own > your changes? Do you attend a school which might make such a claim?] > > > [For the copyright registration, what country are you a citizen of?] > > > [What year were you born?] > > > [Please write your email address here.] > > > [Please write your postal address here.] > > > > > > [Which files have you changed so far, and which new files have you written > so far?] >