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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274327 Archived-At: On 08.09.2021 06:27, Richard Stallman wrote: > > Are we talking about the indent-tabs-mode issue? I proposed a version in > > an email from 19.05.2020, you responded with a rewritten draft, and then > > nothing happened. > > I probably had no further time. I am not pressing to do an inquiry, > and I don't want to be the one to run it. But if we want to know what > the users would prefer about that and why, this is the best way I know > of to find out. Who can do it? I can't even create the mailbox, which is the first necessary step that you outlined.