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From: Saulius Menkevicius <sauliusmenkevicius@fastmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Cc: p.stephani2@gmail.com, alan@idiocy.org, mituharu@math.s.chiba-u.ac.jp
Subject: Re: master 2c79a8f 2/2: Use posix_spawn if possible.
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:58:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c25e2151-6ea8-83ae-b8e4-f554f2b45ffc@fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7CFD5E28-8266-4004-BF66-255146D72722@gnu.org>

Sorry I did not mention the platform, this happens on Linux/x64 and has 
been reported by multiple persons:

- https://github.com/razzmatazz/csharp-language-server/issues/12


The issue has been noticed when dotnet-based LSP servers are used with 
emacs/lsp-mode, -- in particular lsp-mode starts the server using 
`make-process` and then communicates over stdio. Link to the code that 
launches the server:

- https://github.com/emacs-lsp/lsp-mode/blob/master/lsp-mode.el#L6925


We have csharp-ls and fsac servers launched with the same mechanism as 
are for other languages -- which are working ok with posix_spawn 
enabled. It only breaks for those before-mentioned LSP servers that are 
implemented on top of dotnet and use dotnet runtime (same thing as JVM, 
but for C#/F#/CLR languages).

Now it appears, that switch to posix_spawn broke communication over 
stdio to those dotnet-based LSP servers for some technical reason, -- I 
didn't investigate yet why, because it is a bit over my head. I *think* 
there is an interplay between posix_spawn-based process launch 
implementation in emacs and dotnet runtime stdio abstractions/platform 
layer -- because otherwise other language servers work with that commit 
that enables posix_spawn, like those based on JVM too.


I know this is a bit of a corner case as posix_spawn brings performance 
benefits, but just FYI.

BR,

-Saulius Menkevicius


Am 25.01.22 um 10:41 schrieb Eli Zaretskii:
> On January 25, 2022 8:48:12 AM GMT+02:00, Saulius Menkevicius <sauliusmenkevicius@fastmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I know this has been merged a couple of months ago to `master` but I
>> would like to report breakage that occurs due to that commit.
>>
>> We have csharp-ls (C#) and fsautocomplete (F#) LSP servers that stopped
>> working with that commit (git-bisected to
>> a60053f8368e058229721f1bf1567c2b1676b239).
>>
>> I did not delve too much into the details or prepare a minimal test case
>> but this appears to be an interplay between dotnet runtime (v6) and
>> posix_spawn.
>>
>> Not sure if that warrants a revert but just a heads-up.
> Can you explain how dotnet runtime comes into play here?  Does Emacs invoke a dotnet process or something?
>
> And on what OS does this happen?



  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-25  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-25  6:48 master 2c79a8f 2/2: Use posix_spawn if possible Saulius Menkevicius
2022-01-25  8:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25  8:58   ` Saulius Menkevicius [this message]
2022-01-25 11:46     ` Jostein Kjønigsen
2022-01-25 11:55       ` Po Lu
2022-01-25 12:22     ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-25 12:25       ` Saulius Menkevicius
2022-01-25 13:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-28 17:12           ` Matt Armstrong
2022-01-29  8:03             ` Saulius Menkevičius
2022-01-29  8:26             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-31 20:48               ` Saulius Menkevicius
2022-02-01  9:59                 ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-01 18:30                   ` Saulius Menkevicius
2022-02-01 19:23                     ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-01 19:52                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-02  8:30                         ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-02  8:54                           ` Saulius Menkevičius
2022-02-07 21:12                             ` Saulius Menkevicius
2022-02-08  8:27                               ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-08 12:12                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-08 12:18                                 ` Saulius Menkevicius
2022-02-08 14:59                                   ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-08 21:09                                     ` Saulius Menkevicius
2022-02-09  8:48                                       ` Robert Pluim
2022-02-12  8:44                                         ` Saulius Menkevicius
2022-02-12  8:59                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-12  9:42                                             ` Saulius Menkevicius
2022-03-04  8:38                   ` [PATCH] posix_spawn blocks SIGCHLD in spawned processes (was: Re: master 2c79a8f 2/2: Use posix_spawn if possible.) Jürgen Hötzel
2022-03-04 10:07                     ` [PATCH] posix_spawn blocks SIGCHLD in spawned processes Robert Pluim
2022-03-04 15:41                       ` Jürgen Hötzel
2022-03-04 16:08                         ` Robert Pluim
2022-04-17 18:22                         ` Philipp Stephani
2022-04-19 14:36                           ` Robert Pluim
2022-04-19 14:48                             ` Philipp Stephani
2022-04-19 16:07                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-04-19 17:32                               ` Robert Pluim
2022-04-04 14:13                       ` Robert Pluim
2022-01-25 13:15 ` master 2c79a8f 2/2: Use posix_spawn if possible Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-11-08 11:00 Aaron Jensen
2021-11-08 11:03 ` Aaron Jensen
2021-11-08 19:37 ` Alan Third
2021-11-09 14:46 ` Philipp
2021-11-09 15:57   ` Aaron Jensen
2021-11-09 17:05     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-09 18:12       ` Aaron Jensen
2021-11-12 11:48         ` Philipp
2021-11-12 13:42           ` Aaron Jensen
2021-11-12 22:05             ` Alan Third
2021-11-13 14:08               ` Aaron Jensen
2021-11-13 16:03                 ` Philipp
2021-11-13 16:17                   ` Aaron Jensen
2021-11-15 15:01           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-25 13:16 Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-26 11:26 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-12-26 12:08   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-26 12:16     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-29 16:43       ` Philipp Stephani
2020-12-31 16:24         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-12-31 16:39           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-31 17:36             ` Philipp Stephani
2020-12-31 17:47               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-31 20:24                 ` Philipp Stephani
2020-12-31 20:36                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-01  7:59                     ` martin rudalics
2021-01-01  8:04                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-01 23:38           ` Andy Moreton
2021-01-01 23:56             ` Alan Third
2021-01-02  1:12               ` Andy Moreton
2021-01-02  6:53                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-01-02  8:56                   ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-29  9:46                     ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2021-10-30 18:30                       ` Alan Third
2021-11-02 19:58                         ` Alan Third
2021-11-02 20:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-02 20:36                             ` Alan Third
2021-11-03  3:24                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-10 12:42                                 ` Philipp Stephani
2021-11-10 14:10                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-11 17:52                                     ` Philipp
2021-11-11 18:00                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-11 21:04                                         ` Philipp
2020-12-29 16:29     ` Philipp Stephani
2020-12-29 18:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-29 21:36         ` Philipp Stephani
2020-12-30  3:33           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-31 16:10             ` Philipp Stephani
2020-12-31 18:33               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-31 17:50       ` Philipp Stephani
2020-12-31 18:34         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-31 20:14           ` Philipp Stephani

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