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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: rms@gnu.org, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net
Subject: RE: Multi-line input
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 08:44:50 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c12a7e64-ce58-4207-be30-a85e9632b84b@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <<E1XxE8T-0002OE-U9@fencepost.gnu.org>>

>   Control J *is* a newline char.
> 
> You know that, and I know that, but most users don't know that.

Which is why I said:

* "Make `C-j' self-inserting in more keymaps" - users will
  find it and use it.  (They already do so for search.)

* "Instead of treating that as an aberration or some secret
  incantation, we should (and we do, for the most part)
  simply make the Control J <=> newline relationship, and
  hence `C-q C-j' for insertion, known from the outset.

  Emacs users, like GNU/Linux users in general, should be
  aware of this, if they make explicit use of newline chars."

IOW, making `C-j' self-insert generally, pretty much
everywhere, and documenting it prominently, will take it
out of the closet.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-06 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-09 17:57 Losing minibuffer input Juri Linkov
2014-11-09 18:17 ` Óscar Fuentes
2014-11-09 18:33   ` Juri Linkov
2014-11-09 18:53     ` Drew Adams
2014-11-13 20:23       ` Juri Linkov
2014-11-14 11:16         ` Dmitry Gutov
2014-11-18 21:36           ` Juri Linkov
2014-11-20 22:38             ` Johan Bockgård
2014-11-20 23:58               ` Juri Linkov
2014-11-21  7:37               ` previous-line, next-line at the first, last lines of the buffer Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-21  8:49                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-11-21  9:12                   ` Ivan Shmakov
2014-11-30 13:31                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-09 18:52   ` Losing minibuffer input Drew Adams
2014-11-09 18:52 ` Drew Adams
2014-11-13 21:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-11-18 21:40   ` Juri Linkov
2014-11-19  4:22     ` Drew Adams
2014-11-20 23:52       ` Juri Linkov
2014-11-21  0:24         ` Drew Adams
2014-11-20 16:35     ` Daniel Colascione
2014-11-20 23:55       ` Juri Linkov
2014-12-05  0:38       ` Multi-line input (was: Losing minibuffer input) Juri Linkov
2014-12-05  2:03         ` Multi-line input Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 16:24           ` Yuri Khan
2014-12-05 18:45             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-12-05 22:43           ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]           ` <<E1Xx1bN-0007f9-Ut@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-12-05 23:02             ` Drew Adams
2014-12-06 12:06               ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]             ` <<94e0230f-c396-4266-8ada-9816d8118946@default>
     [not found]               ` <<E1XxE8T-0002OE-U9@fencepost.gnu.org>
2014-12-06 16:44                 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2014-12-05 23:43           ` Juri Linkov
2014-12-06  3:20             ` Drew Adams

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