From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Hedlund Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/Fullscreen-mode-on-MS_002dWindows.html Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 21:34:43 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1abb86af-6ea5-b588-ddd8-b08d520359ab@beloved.name> <83a5zntpwn.fsf@gnu.org> <6d33504f-58a5-e02f-b97c-dc6e181decc6@beloved.name> <838rf7tpc3.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------6YkjFprzLRcrZzG4wjmrOixH" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16988"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.9.1 Cc: Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 04 21:35:26 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pjmRC-00042y-6i for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 21:35:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pjmQu-0003Om-LT; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 15:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pjmQp-0003OE-Fk for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 15:35:03 -0400 Original-Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:dc4:8::228]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pjmQc-0006H2-RQ; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 15:35:03 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: public@beloved.name) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E1B9D1BF207; Tue, 4 Apr 2023 19:34:43 +0000 (UTC) Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <838rf7tpc3.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:4b98:dc4:8::228; envelope-from=public@beloved.name; helo=relay8-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -44 X-Spam_score: -4.5 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.5 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.925, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305116 Archived-At: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6YkjFprzLRcrZzG4wjmrOixH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 04/04/2023 21:33, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 21:24:57 +0200 >> Cc:Emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: David Hedlund >> >> Thanks, but resizing a frame doesn't make it fullscreen, does it? >> >> That's correct. This will only make it convenient to avoid the "avoid the slightly distracting visual effect of >> Emacs starting with its default frame size and then growing to fullscreen" - >> https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/Fullscreen-mode-on-MS_002dWindows.html >> without having to "compute the correct values for width and height". > Does it really avoid the distraction? Yes it does. I've tried it several times to make sure it really works. You can try it yourself on Windows. > The initial dimensions of the > frame are not its final dimensions, so some resizing does take place, > even with these customizations, doesn't it? --------------6YkjFprzLRcrZzG4wjmrOixH Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit


On 04/04/2023 21:33, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 21:24:57 +0200
Cc: Emacs-devel@gnu.org
From: David Hedlund <public@beloved.name>

Thanks, but resizing a frame doesn't make it fullscreen, does it?

That's correct. This will only make it convenient to avoid the "avoid the slightly distracting visual effect of
Emacs starting with its default frame size and then growing to fullscreen" - 
https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/efaq/Fullscreen-mode-on-MS_002dWindows.html
without having to "compute the correct values for width and height".

Does it really avoid the distraction?

Yes it does. I've tried it several times to make sure it really works. You can try it yourself on Windows.


The initial dimensions of the
frame are not its final dimensions, so some resizing does take place,
even with these customizations, doesn't it?
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