From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Status of MAC/W32/X consolidation and some questions. Date: 12 Mar 2003 13:44:35 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5xadg38lnj.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200303111903.h2BJ36gF012207@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1047444403 2335 80.91.224.249 (12 Mar 2003 04:46:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 04:46:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Kim F. Storm" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 12 05:46:40 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18sy8W-0000bS-00 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 05:46:40 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18syVa-0000e0-00 for ; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 06:10:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18sy8P-0005jc-01 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:46:33 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18sy7r-0005XH-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:45:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18sy7c-0004gC-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:45:49 -0500 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([210.143.35.51]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18sy77-0002uc-00; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 23:45:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.193])h2C4ifw09155; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:44:41 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mailsv4.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id h2C4ifI20346; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:44:41 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edtmg03.edc.nec.co.jp (edtmg03.edc.nec.co.jp [10.26.16.203]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id h2C4ieH22240; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:44:40 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) NAA12731; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:44:39 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) with ESMTP id h2C4iZNH012964; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:44:35 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 63E7F3702; Wed, 12 Mar 2003 13:44:35 +0900 (JST) Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <200303111903.h2BJ36gF012207@rum.cs.yale.edu> Original-Lines: 23 Original-cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12292 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12292 "Stefan Monnier" writes: > > Ah well, I guess I'll have to toss out my face pixmaps patch (allow > > images as face background) since there's no way it's going to survive > > something like this, and there's no way I can commit it... >=20 > How 'bout committing it to a branch at least, for posterity ? I think even that would require a fair bit of work (I haven't bothered to keep it updated), but the main annoyance for me is that there are _two_ versions, one of which works fairly well, but is lacking features, and one which adds the features I want (which are necessary, I think, to satisfy the `transparent background' crowd), but doesn't work (the two patches even use different lisp-visible interfaces, which adds to the fun). All in all it's rather a mess; I should have maintained it as a branch all along (which may have eased the pain of CVS enough so that I would have actually finished it!), but I didn't really appreciate branches until you clued me in (with the lex-binding stuff). -Miles --=20 =BC=AB=A4=E9=A4=F2=B6=F5=A4=CB=A4=B7=A4=C6=A1=A2=BF=B4=A4=F2=B3=AB=A4=AF=BB= =FE=A1=A2=C6=BB=A4=CF=B3=AB=A4=AB=A4=EC=A4=EB