From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please make line-move-visual nil Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 19:16:48 +0900 Message-ID: References: <23521879.post@talk.nabble.com> <7b501d5c0905131659r1d79ec56s5a59f76e4713edf9@mail.gmail.com> <23532135.post@talk.nabble.com> <87tz3odq3l.fsf@iki.fi> <23538683.post@talk.nabble.com> <87eiuru24b.fsf@iki.fi> <39370.130.55.118.19.1242397867.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <48914.130.55.118.19.1242592120.squirrel@webmail.lanl.gov> <66C6BA04EBCF4B6DAED69E851627D852@us.oracle.com> <18970.25868.549514.194223@a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1243246645 16279 80.91.229.12 (25 May 2009 10:17:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 10:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ams@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , drew.adams@oracle.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Ulrich Mueller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 25 12:17:17 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M8XF6-0001QD-A2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 12:17:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34945 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M8XF5-00060w-A3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 06:17:15 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M8XEy-0005z2-1M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 06:17:08 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M8XEs-0005vn-QF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 06:17:07 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51034 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M8XEs-0005vh-H0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 May 2009 06:17:02 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.193]:61075) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M8XEo-0008V1-C4; Mon, 25 May 2009 06:16:59 -0400 Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.54]) by tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n4PAGmmI002511; Mon, 25 May 2009 19:16:48 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay21.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.24] [10.29.19.24]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Mon, 25 May 2009 19:16:48 +0900 Original-Received: from dhlpc061 ([10.114.113.45] [10.114.113.45]) by relay21.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Mon, 25 May 2009 19:16:48 +0900 Original-Received: by dhlpc061 (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 8974D52E21E; Mon, 25 May 2009 19:16:48 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <18970.25868.549514.194223@a1ihome1.kph.uni-mainz.de> (Ulrich Mueller's message of "Mon, 25 May 2009 11:29:48 +0200") Original-Lines: 19 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:111076 Archived-At: Ulrich Mueller writes: > Also, at former times the user community was asked before such UI > changes were done (I remember polls about C-x 0, M-g, C-x C-w, and > C-x C-q at least). Why isn't this done any more? It would seem quite difficult to do a poll that actually yields results representative of the larger emacs user community (and a poll that _doesn't_ do that seems worse than useless). A well-supported educated guess may well be the better option. [Of course, this is the same reason that people just posting "me too!" in response to threads like this is pretty pointless...] -Miles -- "She looks like the wax version of herself." [Comment under a Paris Hilton fashion pic]