From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Q] GNu Emacs/MacOS X/Font Encoding Date: 09 May 2003 10:26:18 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052443815 20467 80.91.224.249 (9 May 2003 01:30:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 01:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri May 09 03:30:08 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19Dwi8-0005JT-00 for ; Fri, 09 May 2003 03:30:08 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Dwmq-00085H-00 for ; Fri, 09 May 2003 03:35:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19DwgU-0003T6-01 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 21:28:26 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19Dwfw-0003HE-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 21:27:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 19Dwfs-00033Y-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2003 21:27:49 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.214]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19Dwfq-0002ua-00; Thu, 08 May 2003 21:27:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate3.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.194])h491RZc07249; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:27:35 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate3.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id h491RZB04490; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:27:35 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edtmg01.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.26.16.201]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id h491QNC22787; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:27:34 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) id KAA14727; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:26:22 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) with ESMTP id h491QINH018821; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:26:18 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 35F2E36FF; Fri, 9 May 2003 10:26:18 +0900 (JST) Original-To: =?iso-8859-1?q?Rolf_Marvin_B=F8e_Lindgren?= System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 24 Original-cc: Andrew Choi X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13779 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13779 Rolf Marvin B=F8e Lindgren writes: > in order to avoid having to filter all our files before feeding them > to other software, we need a GNU Emacs that can read and write Latin 1 > properly using unibyte. Of course emacs can read and write latin 1 just fine in multibyte mode. I'm not sure how many people still use emacs in unibyte mode, but my impression* is that it's the minority these days, even in europe -- Emacs simply works a lot better in multibyte mode (even if you only ever use a single character set). Unibyte mode is at best a flaky hack left over for historical reasons. * Of course I base my opinion on what I've seen personally, which probably means my viewpoint is biased in favor of emacs experts. Though one can get some idea from watching bug reports, what the unwashed masses are doing is less clear. -Miles --=20 `Cars give people wonderful freedom and increase their opportunities. But they also destroy the environment, to an extent so drastic that they kill all social life' (from _A Pattern Language_)