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From: Miles Bader <miles@lsi.nec.co.jp>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, mbp@sourcefrog.net
Subject: Re: suggested feature -- console-mode frame title sets Xterm title
Date: 15 Oct 2003 15:22:12 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <buowub781gr.fsf@mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ubrsj3uf8.fsf@elta.co.il>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@elta.co.il> writes:
> > If you're talking about the frame's name, what you would specify to
> > switch frames, then I don't see why this is desirable.  Always using
> > the F<n> name seems better.
> 
> I thought about using the xterm's title as the frame's name.  People
> may wish to use the name displayed in the xterm's title because it's
> more descriptive, and thuis more easily remembered, than F<n>.  In
> effect, the string in the title could act as the frame's name, making
> the use of set-frame-name unnecessary.  (Which means, btw, that, if
> Miles's suggestion is implemented, we should decide what to do with
> set-frame-name: should it affect the xterm title or the F<n> displayed
> in the mode line [or both]).

I really think it ought to work as close to the way X does as possible,
with the F%d notation only used as (1) an abbreviated form displayed in
the mode-line (since the `true name' is too long), and (2) possibly as a
`shortcut name' allowed for switching-frame commands as I described
earlier.

In X, the displayed frame `title' is either the frame's name (set by
set-frame-name), or if that's nil, a string computed using
frame-title-format.  select-frame-by-name actually seems to use the
frame's title, not it's name.

I see no reason _not_ to use this same model for ttys, and doing so
would be a big win for consistency.  If, as I described earlier, F%d
notation were still be displayed in mode-lines, and usable for
select-frame-by-name, the current tty behavior would also largely be
preserved.

I also think that the F%d stuff should work on X -- then there would be
basically no difference between X and ttys in this area.

-Miles
-- 
`...the Soviet Union was sliding in to an economic collapse so comprehensive
 that in the end its factories produced not goods but bads: finished products
 less valuable than the raw materials they were made from.'  [The Economist]

  reply	other threads:[~2003-10-15  6:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-14 16:49 suggested feature -- console-mode frame title sets Xterm title Eric Hanchrow
2002-06-15 21:47 ` Richard Stallman
2003-09-26  5:04   ` Martin Pool
2003-09-27  2:32     ` Richard Stallman
2003-09-29  5:17       ` Martin Pool
2003-10-01 21:21         ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-01 21:45           ` Martin Pool
2003-10-02  6:34           ` Martin Pool
2003-10-02  7:00             ` Miles Bader
2003-10-02  8:52               ` Martin Pool
2003-10-02 14:58                 ` Miles Bader
2003-10-02 19:15                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-03  5:58                   ` Martin Pool
     [not found]             ` <E1A58vH-0002KC-Mq@fencepost.gnu.org>
2003-10-03  1:04               ` Martin Pool
     [not found]                 ` <E1A5p16-0001Wq-3Y@fencepost.gnu.org>
2003-10-14  3:59                   ` Martin Pool
2003-10-14  6:39                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-14  7:15                       ` Martin Pool
2003-10-14  7:29                         ` Miles Bader
2003-10-14  7:44                           ` Martin Pool
2003-10-14  7:56                             ` Miles Bader
2003-10-14  8:01                               ` Martin Pool
2003-10-15  6:01                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-14  9:10                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-14  9:40                           ` Romain FRANCOISE
2003-10-14  9:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-15  4:08                       ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-15  6:07                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-15  6:22                           ` Miles Bader [this message]
2003-10-15  6:36                             ` Martin Pool
2003-10-16 14:06                               ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-16 14:06                           ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-14 19:32                     ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-15  2:47                       ` Martin Pool
2003-10-15 20:00                         ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-16  7:32                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-10-16  8:25                             ` Miles Bader
2003-10-16  8:35                               ` Martin Pool
2003-10-16  9:07                                 ` Miles Bader
2003-10-16 17:04                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-16 23:07                                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-10-30  3:03                                 ` Martin Pool

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