From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: APOP support in movemail Date: 10 Nov 2003 15:18:20 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <2914-Thu06Nov2003114247+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> <3405-Sat08Nov2003183910+0200-eliz@elta.co.il> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1068445333 11240 80.91.224.253 (10 Nov 2003 06:22:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 06:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 10 07:22:11 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJ5RD-0007ge-00 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:22:11 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AJ5RC-0001Xg-00 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:22:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AJ6MN-0006Bd-He for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:21:15 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AJ6MI-0006As-BY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:21:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.24) id 1AJ6Ll-00062e-5F for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:21:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [210.143.35.51] (helo=TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AJ6LE-0005v1-Af; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 02:20:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp (mailgate54.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.193]) by TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id hAA6IPg22285; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:18:25 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id hAA6IPO01979; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:18:25 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edtmg03.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.26.16.203]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.7/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id hAA6IOa10641; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:18:24 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by edtmg03.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.9.3p2+3.2W/3.7W_EDC_Ver.1.0) with ESMTP id PAA29029; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:18:22 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.12.10/8.12.8/EDcg v2.01-mc/1046780839) with ESMTP id hAA6IL7Q003917; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:18:21 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id D193B37DA; Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:18:20 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Karl Eichwalder System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 18 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:17745 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:17745 Karl Eichwalder writes: > No, it's simply the "X", "X11", or the "X Window System"; from the man > page: With all due respect, I believe that particular ship left port about 3 centuries ago... Personally, I try not to use `X Windows' when I can avoid doing so, because I think it sounds stupid. However, the particular names endorsed by the X consortium are often clumsy because they're either too terse, and so can be confusing (X, X11), or simply unwieldy (`The X Window System'); `X Windows' has neither of these problems (mostly because it sounds like that well-known redmond-spawned system, of course). -Miles -- Run away! Run away!