From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: comint-carriage-motion causes severe problems. Date: 02 Jul 2002 10:32:43 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <200207020035.TAA19789@eel.dms.auburn.edu> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1025573952 15026 127.0.0.1 (2 Jul 2002 01:39:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2002 01:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 17PCdM-0003uF-00 for ; Tue, 02 Jul 2002 03:39:12 +0200 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([199.232.76.164]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17PCi9-0003ls-00 for ; Tue, 02 Jul 2002 03:44:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=fencepost.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17PCdD-0007YG-00; Mon, 01 Jul 2002 21:39:03 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.214]) by fencepost.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 17PCbP-0007Le-00; Mon, 01 Jul 2002 21:37:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.195]) by TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id g621b5R09751; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:37:05 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mailsv.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id g621b4a15906; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:37:04 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.30.114.133]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id g621Wi414306; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:37:02 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.10.2+Sun/3.7Wlsi_mx_6.0) with ESMTP id g621WiK17666; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:32:44 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id B774637DD; Tue, 2 Jul 2002 10:32:43 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Luc Teirlinck System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <200207020035.TAA19789@eel.dms.auburn.edu> Original-Lines: 26 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:5302 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:5302 Luc Teirlinck writes: > I do not know what problem(s) comint-carriage-motion is supposed to fix. Many interactive programs in unix use CR and BS characters in their output to try to update a single line of output (e.g., in progress indicators). > I believe that at the very least this function should be removed from > ielm. It's probably safe to do so, since probably nobody tries to do such `carriage motion tricks' in elisp. However ielm is a very atypical use of comint, and `comint-carriage-motion' should definitely be turned on by default. It doesn't work to `turn it on for specific applications' because it's almost always the case that you really have no idea what application in a subprocess is going to be producing the output (e.g., if the program directly invoked by comint is a shell, the output comes from whatever the user invokes). -Miles -- [|nurgle|] ddt- demonic? so quake will have an evil kinda setting? one that will make every christian in the world foamm at the mouth? [iddt] nurg, that's the goal