From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unibyte characters Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:18:41 +0900 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1225451962 1601 80.91.229.12 (31 Oct 2008 11:19:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Kenichi Handa To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 31 12:20:24 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Kvs3D-0000ID-8a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:20:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56516 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kvs26-0003qb-8f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:19:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kvs1n-0003k0-3q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:18:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Kvs1k-0003j3-Ol for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:18:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34666 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Kvs1k-0003iw-Cb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:18:52 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.206]:43077) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Kvs1g-0007rR-S2; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 07:18:49 -0400 Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.54]) by tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m9VBIS8l019021; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:18:42 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.20] [10.29.19.20]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:18:41 +0900 Original-Received: from dhapc248.dev.necel.com ([10.114.112.215] [10.114.112.215]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:18:41 +0900 Original-Received: by dhapc248.dev.necel.com (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 6F3A7679; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 20:18:41 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:05:54 +0200") Original-Lines: 16 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:105189 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > But I think this is inaccurate and even misleading. For starters, > unibyte buffers and strings can contain DBCS characters and UTF-8 > encoded text It doesn't seem inaccurate or misleading -- it's talking about characters as emacs (and the user, if the buffer is displayed) sees them. Text in a unibyte buffer is simply a bunch of binary characters 0-255; you can interpret them however you want, of course, but that's not how emacs sees it. -Miles -- Road, n. A strip of land along which one may pass from where it is too tiresome to be to where it is futile to go.