From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: debbugs.el Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:29:25 +0900 Message-ID: References: <8762sa9770.fsf@gmx.de> <87pqqibr30.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mxllambw.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> <87vd093bwn.fsf@gmx.de> <8739nceqdb.fsf@gnus.org> <8339ncsf3e.fsf@gnu.org> <877hcoo6nh.fsf@gmx.de> <83zkpkqytb.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1298626205 2299 80.91.229.12 (25 Feb 2011 09:30:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 09:30:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Michael Albinus , larsi@gnus.org, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: ding-owner+M25660@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Feb 25 10:30:01 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pstzs-0007f9-8k for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:30:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PstzS-0001Gj-Nc; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 03:29:34 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PstzQ-0001GO-MS for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 03:29:32 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PstzP-0004dl-9F for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 03:29:32 -0600 Original-Received: from relmlor2.renesas.com ([210.160.252.172]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PstzO-00016X-2U; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:29:30 +0100 Original-Received: from relmlir2.idc.renesas.com ([10.200.68.152]) by relmlor2.idc.renesas.com ( SJSMS) with ESMTP id <0LH600KY42D3CJ00@relmlor2.idc.renesas.com>; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:29:27 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relmlac1.idc.renesas.com ([10.200.69.21]) by relmlir2.idc.renesas.com ( SJSMS) with ESMTP id <0LH600G2R2D2A260@relmlir2.idc.renesas.com>; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:29:27 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by relmlac1.idc.renesas.com (Postfix, from userid 0) id E560F80088; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:29:26 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relmlac1.idc.renesas.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relmlac1.idc.renesas.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B56E180030; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:29:26 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relmlii2.idc.renesas.com [10.200.68.66] by relmlac1.idc.renesas.com with ESMTP id UAN13461; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:29:26 +0900 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,224,1297004400"; d="scan'208";a="13567928" Original-Received: from unknown (HELO relay11.aps.necel.com) ([10.29.19.46]) by relmlii2.idc.renesas.com with ESMTP; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:29:26 +0900 Original-Received: from relay11.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.46] [10.29.19.46]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:29:26 +0900 Original-Received: from dhlpc061 ([10.114.97.82] [10.114.97.82]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:29:26 +0900 Original-Received: by dhlpc061 (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 09A9952E1DC; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:29:25 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-reply-to: <83zkpkqytb.fsf@gnu.org> Original-Lines: 29 X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77334 gmane.emacs.devel:136481 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> I'd love to have a real Emacs-based interface to the Emacs bug archive. >> >> I'd be checking it a lot more often. These days I need to remember to >> >> point a web browser at it, see if there's anything interesting, and then >> >> type `M-x gnus-read-ephemeral-emacs-bug-group RET >> >> RET', and that's just boring. >> > >> > Or make the bugs come to you: subscribe to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org >> > mailing list, and that's it. >> >> The idea of the debbugs SOAP interface is to send queries. > > I'm all for it, mind you. I just think that the reasons stated by > Lars are not a valid justification for having such an interface in > Emacs. "I'd be checking it a lot more often" seems like pretty good justification to me... The mailing list is useful too, but it isn't a good replacement for a query-based interface (I suspect that very active maintainers would use both, but that many occasional participants would general prefer a query-based interface). -Miles -- Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable.