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From: Miles Bader <miles.bader@necel.com>
To: joakim@verona.se
Cc: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>,
	Daniel Clemente <dcl441-bugs@yahoo.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Short explanation for & in key ! of dired
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:30:50 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <buomyl96hmt.fsf@dhapc248.dev.necel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3zlpa7wq8.fsf@verona.se> (joakim@verona.se's message of "Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:19:27 +0200")

joakim@verona.se writes:
> & gimp RET
>
> I'd be happier! But, ok, thats my use-case, and I dont really know how
> other people use dired. 

That's exactly what I want too.  When backgrounding, I'm almost always
running some gui app; I do not care about stdout/stderr, and Emacs
clumsy handling of background processes (only one at a time unless you
fiddle with things) is pretty annoying.

The current behavior of backgrounding seems vaguely anacronistic, maybe
from a time when people didn't use a window system.

Incidentally, many gnome apps are extremely sloppy about their output --
if you run them from a terminal you get tons of random debugging junk
(which doesn't for the most part seem to reflect any observable
problem).  This is for standard released apps.  It seems that they are
expected to normally be run in an environment where such output is
discarded.

-miles

-- 
The automobile has not merely taken over the street, it has dissolved the
living tissue of the city.  Its appetite for space is absolutely insatiable;
moving and parked, it devours urban land, leaving the buildings as mere
islands of habitable space in a sea of dangerous and ugly traffic.
[James Marston Fitch, New York Times, 1 May 1960]




  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-25  8:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-23  8:13 Short explanation for & in key ! of dired Daniel Clemente
2008-06-23  9:24 ` David Kastrup
2008-06-23  9:31   ` Miles Bader
2008-06-24 23:05     ` Juri Linkov
2008-06-25  6:51       ` joakim
2008-06-25  6:59         ` Miles Bader
2008-06-25  7:10           ` David Kastrup
2008-06-25  7:15             ` David Kastrup
2008-06-25  8:19             ` joakim
2008-06-25  8:30               ` Miles Bader [this message]
2008-06-25  8:44                 ` joakim
2008-06-25 16:14                   ` Paul R
2008-06-26 12:04                   ` Lynbech Christian
2008-06-26 12:10                     ` David Kastrup
2008-06-26 22:46                       ` Phil Jackson
2008-06-27 23:30                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-06-28  1:04                         ` Miles Bader
2008-06-28 19:47                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-06-25 18:03               ` Mathias Dahl
2008-06-25 18:52                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-07-03 11:34       ` & and M-& to run programs asynchronously (was: Re: Short explanation for & in key ! of dired) Daniel Clemente
2008-07-03 11:45         ` & and M-& to run programs asynchronously David Kastrup
2008-07-06 18:54           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-06 19:41             ` David Kastrup
2008-07-07 22:12               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-08  0:37                 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-08 23:07                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09  5:30                     ` Edward O'Connor
2008-07-09 20:35                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-09 20:39                         ` Edward O'Connor
2008-07-06 18:57         ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-16 18:46         ` Daniel Clemente
2008-07-17  0:33           ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-18  9:20             ` Daniel Clemente
2008-07-19  0:27               ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-22 19:50                 ` Mathias Dahl
2008-07-22 22:48                   ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-29 14:53                     ` Daniel Clemente
2008-07-29 16:51                       ` Juri Linkov
2008-07-31 14:07                         ` Chong Yidong
2008-07-31 15:30                           ` Juri Linkov
2008-08-18  0:24                             ` Daniel Clemente
2008-08-25 19:52                               ` Juri Linkov
2008-08-28 17:33                                 ` Daniel Clemente
2008-08-29  5:59                                 ` tomas
2008-09-10 23:57                                   ` Juri Linkov
2009-10-14  0:47                           ` Daniel Clemente
2008-09-06 17:10         ` Daniel Clemente
2008-09-10 23:52           ` Juri Linkov
2008-11-15 13:13             ` Daniel Clemente
2008-11-15 16:12               ` Chong Yidong
2009-06-28  9:51             ` Daniel Clemente
2009-06-28 21:52               ` Juri Linkov
2009-06-29 16:52                 ` Daniel Clemente
2009-06-30  0:02                   ` Juri Linkov
     [not found]                     ` <jwvljn91ns5.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
2009-06-30 20:19                       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-01  0:02                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-01  1:03                         ` Miles Bader
2009-07-02 23:27                           ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-05 19:42                             ` Fernando
2009-07-06 23:51                               ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-07 10:02                                 ` Jan Djärv
2009-07-01 15:03                         ` Stefan Monnier

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