From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [CVS] f7, f8 bound.. Date: 28 Aug 2002 10:12:34 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87lm6xiruh.fsf@computer.localdomain> <5xu1liwmu6.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200208261526.g7QFQX624783@rum.cs.yale.edu> <5xu1lgu1e4.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <200208271621.g7RGLNm30516@rum.cs.yale.edu> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1030497201 7782 127.0.0.1 (28 Aug 2002 01:13:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 01:13:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm), "D. Goel" , emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17jrOa-00021I-00 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 03:13:20 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17jru8-0003zQ-00 for ; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 03:45:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17jrPu-0007M9-00; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:14:42 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17jrO5-0007LD-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:12:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17jrO3-0007L1-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:12:48 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.214]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17jrO2-0007Kw-00; Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:12:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.195]) by TYO201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id g7S1CbG07979; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:12:37 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mailsv4.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.196]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id g7S1Cag15484; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:12:36 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.30.114.133]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id g7S1CZh17844; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:12:35 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.10.2+Sun/3.7Wlsi_mx_6.0) with ESMTP id g7S1CYs18686; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:12:35 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id A049D36F2; Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:12:34 +0900 (JST) Original-To: "Stefan Monnier" System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <200208271621.g7RGLNm30516@rum.cs.yale.edu> Original-Lines: 19 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7009 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7009 "Stefan Monnier" writes: > > I.e. I have to hit 4 keys to type C-x (, type the macro, then hit 4 > > keys to type C-x ), and finally 3 keys to type C-x e for every call of > > the macro. > > Sure. So you bound them to some of the user-reserved function keys. > Great for you. Don't force it down everybody's throat. Yeah, I think this sums it up. Everybody has their favorite customizations, but please think a little harder before pushing to make them the default. Maybe some people use keyboard macros very frequently, but I think most use them just sometimes, and reserving two keys from an extremely limited set is too much. As those two keys are rather hard to remember, it's likely that this change won't help the occasional macro-user _at all_. -Miles -- .Numeric stability is probably not all that important when you're guessing.