From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: keymap in yank-excluded-properties Date: 04 Sep 2002 17:02:17 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <5xelcc3054.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> <20020904082958.50FD.LEKTU@terra.es> <5xznuyjg87.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1031126571 22885 127.0.0.1 (4 Sep 2002 08:02:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 08:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , rms@gnu.org, Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17mV7g-0005wp-00 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:02:48 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17mVgm-0000AL-00 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:39:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17mV9F-00073y-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 04:04:25 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17mV7i-00071e-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 04:02:50 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 17mV7f-00071O-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 04:02:49 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.202]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17mV7f-00071E-00; Wed, 04 Sep 2002 04:02:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.197]) by TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id g8482f425703; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:02:41 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mailsv.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.190]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id g8482e502778; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:02:40 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.30.114.133]) by mailsv.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV-NEC) with ESMTP id g8482Ie06484; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:02:38 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.10.2+Sun/3.7Wlsi_mx_6.0) with ESMTP id g8482Hs25574; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:02:17 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 7808736F4; Wed, 4 Sep 2002 17:02:17 +0900 (JST) Original-To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <5xznuyjg87.fsf@kfs2.cua.dk> Original-Lines: 32 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:7440 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:7440 storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes: > > > [I guess CUA mode already has something like this, but it'd be nice to > > > have it for everyone.] > > > > It'd be cool to be able to use the wonderful rectangle support from CUA > > mode without having to activate all the rest. > > Isn't that exactly what you get by setting cua-enable-cua-keys to nil ? > If not, what's wrong with it? It still leaves other wierd CUA stuff enabled, e.g., shift-key-selection (maybe that's what Juanma wants but I don't). Also, it's quite ugly to have to explicitly disable parts of CUA mode and then turn on CUA mode to get nice rectangle support -- as far as I can tell there's no _reason_ to intertwine the two except history. It would be cleaner to have two separate modes, with CUA using rectangle mode if appropriate (is it? I almost never use a real CUA system, so I don't know if they have such a thing...). [and also for other cua features that probably should as well; I don't remember which ones there are, but we discussed this a while ago.] Of course it would take some work to disentangle them, and I'm not suggesting that you have to do it... but it would be nice if someone did. :-) -miles -- `Cars give people wonderful freedom and increase their opportunities. But they also destroy the environment, to an extent so drastic that they kill all social life' (from _A Pattern Language_)