From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Implementing Eclipse's "organize-imports" in Emacs Lisp Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:05:05 +0900 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201507562 28932 80.91.229.12 (28 Jan 2008 08:06:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 08:06:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: pmr@pajato.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 28 09:06:22 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JJP0I-0002Ys-0x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:06:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJOzr-00081V-7m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:05:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJOzm-000803-Oj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:05:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JJOzl-0007zg-CS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:05:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JJOzl-0007zd-6B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:05:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JJOzc-0002Kj-T7; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:05:25 -0500 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.206]) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JJOzb-0002ui-Eh; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 03:05:24 -0500 Original-Received: from relay11.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.46]) by tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id m0S84wux008140; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:05:06 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay11.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.20] [10.29.19.20]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:05:06 +0900 Original-Received: from dhapc248.dev.necel.com ([10.114.112.215] [10.114.112.215]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:05:06 +0900 Original-Received: by dhapc248.dev.necel.com (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 174CA5AC; Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:05:05 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 28 Jan 2008 02:18:11 -0500") Original-Lines: 21 X-detected-kernel: by mx20.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87695 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > Assuming it does not exist, I'd be inclined to create a Java > application to run in the background which provides an IPC mechanism > to talk to Emacs Lisp. > > What causes the "startup overhead"? Is it loading a large analysis > program? Is it parsing and analyzing your program? I don't how much of it is the GUI bits (which presumably Emacs wouldn't use), but the normal Eclipse app is _extremely_ slow just to start, even before you load a project. Of course it _also_ consumes vast amounts of memory, which make having a persistent process around a bit less inviting ... :-( -Miles -- Dictionary, n. A malevolent literary device for cramping the growth of a language and making it hard and inelastic. This dictionary, however, is a most useful work.