From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: line-move-visual Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:56:02 +0900 Message-ID: References: <200907092112.21879.jem@iki.fi> <87ws6hupsk.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ocrtulzd.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87tz1lja6l.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87prc8ucfq.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1247219789 31769 80.91.229.12 (10 Jul 2009 09:56:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Kenichi Handa , jem@iki.fi, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Bastien Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 10 11:56:22 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MPCq4-0006jy-7V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:56:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60567 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MPCq3-0002mW-N4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:56:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MPCpw-0002jj-KJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:56:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MPCpr-0002ad-4d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:56:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56464 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MPCpq-0002aL-VN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:56:07 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.193]:48335) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MPCpo-0007fb-EE; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:56:05 -0400 Original-Received: from relay31.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.54]) by tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp (8.13.8/8.13.4) with ESMTP id n6A9tk6Z023014; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:56:02 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from relay11.aps.necel.com ([10.29.19.20] [10.29.19.20]) by relay31.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:56:02 +0900 Original-Received: from dhlpc061 ([10.114.114.32] [10.114.114.32]) by relay11.aps.necel.com with ESMTP; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:56:02 +0900 Original-Received: by dhlpc061 (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 060E352E1A7; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:56:02 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <87prc8ucfq.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> (Tassilo Horn's message of "Fri, 10 Jul 2009 11:14:49 +0200") Original-Lines: 22 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 8 (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:112293 Archived-At: Tassilo Horn writes: > I'm missing this vote option: > > Yes and no. Either it should be disabled completely, or full > visual-line-mode should be enabled by default. These inconsistencies > between visual lines with C-n/C-p and logical lines with C-k/C-e/C-e > are the worst-case default. BTW, I really hope that vote page points to the discussion threads about this stuff (which discuss, for instance, exactly the above issue...). Ok, I know even if it does, people won't bother to read anyof it and will vote with their gut. Sigh... -Miles -- The automobile has not merely taken over the street, it has dissolved the living tissue of the city. Its appetite for space is absolutely insatiable; moving and parked, it devours urban land, leaving the buildings as mere islands of habitable space in a sea of dangerous and ugly traffic. [James Marston Fitch, New York Times, 1 May 1960]