From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: 28 Mar 2003 10:48:16 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20030325193739.ZGIN3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se> <1048780121.14517.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1048798444.15136.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1048816455 21478 80.91.224.249 (28 Mar 2003 01:54:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 01:54:15 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 28 02:54:14 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18yj4Q-0005aH-00 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 02:54:14 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18yj6Y-00065x-00 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 02:56:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yj3j-00059d-04 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:53:31 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yj3H-00052B-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:53:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yj2v-0004vy-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:52:42 -0500 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([210.143.35.51]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18yiz8-0003gr-00; Thu, 27 Mar 2003 20:48:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.197])h2S1mMw16501; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:48:22 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id h2S1mMv01377; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:48:22 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edtmg03.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.26.16.203]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id h2S1mH516789; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:48:18 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) KAA23869; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:48:17 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) with ESMTP id h2S1mGNH024403; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:48:16 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 3E00436F4; Fri, 28 Mar 2003 10:48:16 +0900 (JST) Original-To: Owen Taylor System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: <1048798444.15136.55.camel@localhost.localdomain> Original-Lines: 12 Original-cc: "Jan D." Original-cc: Andreas Schwab Original-cc: rms@gnu.org Original-cc: kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de Original-cc: jody@gnome.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:12686 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:12686 Owen Taylor writes: > I wouldn't disagree that there are some definite advantages to the > current system, but it is going to mean a confusing scrollbar in > one way or the other. I think the point is that no solution can avoid being confusing in all situation. There is no silver bullet. -Miles -- "Most attacks seem to take place at night, during a rainstorm, uphill, where four map sheets join." -- Anon. British Officer in WW I