From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk version getting closer Date: 15 Nov 2002 11:20:59 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1037327690 2925 80.91.224.249 (15 Nov 2002 02:34:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 02:34:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18CWJl-0000l3-00 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:34:49 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 18CWWQ-0008Dr-00 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 03:47:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18CWKw-0002Jh-00; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:36:02 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18CW6q-0004kv-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:21:28 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10) id 18CW6o-0004ki-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:21:27 -0500 Original-Received: from tyo202.gate.nec.co.jp ([210.143.35.52]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18CW6o-0004kK-00; Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:21:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.197]) by TYO202.gate.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W01080315) with ESMTP id gAF2L3l06157; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:21:03 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mailsv4.nec.co.jp (mailgate51.nec.co.jp [10.7.69.196]) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) with ESMTP id gAF2L3427501; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:21:03 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.30.114.133]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id gAF2L2207175; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:21:02 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) by mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (8.10.2+Sun/3.7Wlsi_mx_6.0) with ESMTP id gAF2KxB28564; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:20:59 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 2EAE13815; Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:20:59 +0900 (JST) Original-To: bob@rattlesnake.com System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 16 Errors-To: emacs-devel-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:9442 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:9442 "Robert J. Chassell" writes: > I am not a good person for working on menu tips since I hardly ever > use menus. I rarely use menus in emacs either -- for invoking commands. I do keep the menu-bar turned on, though, because the menus are great as _documentation_, especially for modes like Gnus that have 1,000,000 commands that I only occasionally use. I find it much more convenient to just browse the menus in such a case than to use the more conventional emacs help systems (though this obviously only works if the mode has relatively completely menus; luckily Gnus does...). -Miles -- Yo mama's so fat when she gets on an elevator it HAS to go down.