From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gtk scrollbar: thumb too short Date: 10 Apr 2003 15:48:36 +0900 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <20030325193739.ZGIN3924.fep01-svc.swip.net@gaffa.gaia.swipnet.se> <3E8345E8.4090509@swipnet.se> <1048872463.17161.132.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1049134327.3326.74.camel@localhost.localdomain> <84of3p2m44.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> <200304021352.h32DqLO11793@eel.dms.auburn.edu> <1049729721.4045.47.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1049813819.27194.15.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1049899604.23814.14.camel@localhost.localdomain> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1049957903 17621 80.91.224.249 (10 Apr 2003 06:58:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 06:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 10 08:58:20 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 193W0q-0004Zp-00 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:58:20 +0200 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 193W5h-0004I6-00 for ; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:03:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 193Vyq-0001JW-05 for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 02:56:16 -0400 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 193VxO-0000sy-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 02:54:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.10.13) id 193VsJ-0007Vs-00 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 02:49:33 -0400 Original-Received: from tyo201.gate.nec.co.jp ([202.32.8.214]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 193Vrv-00078o-00; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 02:49:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailgate4.nec.co.jp ([10.7.69.195])h3A6mmw21824; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:48:48 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by mailgate4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILGATE-NEC) id h3A6ml723134; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:48:47 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from edtmg01.lsi.nec.co.jp ([10.26.16.201]) by mailsv4.nec.co.jp (8.11.6/3.7W-MAILSV4-NEC) with ESMTP id h3A6mkQ12037; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:48:46 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcsss2.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) id PAA18790; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:48:46 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (mcspd15 [10.30.114.174]) with ESMTP id h3A6maNH006474; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:48:44 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by mcspd15.ucom.lsi.nec.co.jp (Postfix, from userid 31295) id 566A73704; Thu, 10 Apr 2003 15:48:36 +0900 (JST) Original-To: rms@gnu.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu Blat: Foop In-Reply-To: Original-Lines: 19 Original-cc: jan.h.d@swipnet.se Original-cc: kai.grossjohann@gmx.net Original-cc: Owen Taylor Original-cc: teirllm@dms.auburn.edu X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Emacs development discussions. List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:13110 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:13110 Richard Stallman writes: > I just thought of another alternative. The thumb could reach the bottom > when ZV reaches the bottom of the screen; then, if you overscroll, the > thumb would not move. In other words, overscrolling would not be indicated > by the thumb. > > This is obviously problematical, but I think it is less problematical > than the other alternative. Um, couldn't it do this only when the thumb actually reaches the minimum size? So for a buffer where the thumb was larger than minimum, you'd get the nice shrinking behavior. Since a thumb at minimum size would often be pretty unusable if it got any smaller anyway, this seems like a reasonable compromise to me. -Miles -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.